2017 Western Palearctic Big Year (2 Viewers)

DanielDoer · Jul 14, 2017

dantheman said:
... whilst being farted on by a passing Walrus.

:eat:

Although some of these ideas are really funny, I would like to deal with the real thing again. Looking forward for their next leg. Does anybody know what they are going to do? Sticking to the planned itinerary and going to Spain et al? Or will they have an attempt at Grey-tailed Tattler on the Azores? Or is the Amur Falcon in GB still available?

dantheman · Jul 14, 2017

DanielDoer said:
Although some of these ideas are really funny, I would like to deal with the real thing again. Looking forward for their next leg. Does anybody know what they are going to do? Sticking to the planned itinerary and going to Spain et al? Or will they have an attempt at Grey-tailed Tattler on the Azores? Or is the Amur Falcon in GB still available?

Amur Falcon not available - there have been a couple of completely unconfirmed sightings from locations elsewhere, quite probably not the bird.

Swinhoe's Storm Petrel (Fair Isle) last night but presume as per previous years they've got to be there at the time, as not targettable again, due to tape luring ethics??

Andy Adcock · Jul 14, 2017

dantheman said:
Swinhoe's Storm Petrel (Fair Isle) last night but presume as per previous years they've got to be there at the time, as not targettable again, due to tape luring ethics??

They didn't seem to apply these ethics at Filey where the species was targeted nightly for a week or more in the 90's?

Neither do these ethics prevent Shetland ringers from targeting extreme rarities which all seem to end up with a 'leg iron' on wherever they turn up.

A

Farnboro John · Jul 14, 2017

andyadcock said:
They didn't seem to apply these ethics at Filey where the species was targeted nightly for a week or more in the 90's?

Neither do these ethics prevent Shetland ringers from targeting extreme rarities which all seem to end up with a 'leg iron' on wherever they turn up.

A

If the bird was remotely bothered by its occasional hosting at the Obs it would summer off Muckle Flugga. Or Norway.

Or it really is as bone-headed as being off Fair Isle instead of its natal island, and repeatedly being conned into landing in a net might suggest.....

John

Paul Chapman · Jul 14, 2017

andyadcock said:
They didn't seem to apply these ethics at Filey where the species was targeted nightly for a week or more in the 90's?

A

Andy

They were targeted all the way up the East coast but they were only ever caught at Tynemouth - during a routine European Storm-petrel ringing project - and the maximum number of occasions when the same bird was caught in a year was three.

(A bird has been caught at Cove since.)

All the best

Andy Adcock · Jul 14, 2017

Paul Chapman said:
Andy

They were targeted all the way up the East coast but they were only ever caught at Tynemouth - during a routine European Storm-petrel ringing project - and the maximum number of occasions when the same bird was caught in a year was three.

(A bird has been caught at Cove since.)

All the best

Tynemouth yes, sorry,
anyway, how can you be sure that you won't catch the same bird?

A

Muppit17 · Jul 14, 2017

Any ideas when we pop the champagne corks on the year record? If LGRE is regarded as the highest in a year, it appears he himself stated 657. However with the split happy 400club list being used, our three must be past that already.

Apologies if already covered.

Surrey_Ed · Jul 14, 2017

Maffong said:
And I've just found out, that in two more years we will also have the privilege of counting Wood Duck. YAY!
I'm beginning to like the dutch way more and more...

What population is this based on? Thanks

Paul Chapman · Jul 16, 2017

I have read reference to the latest IOC update resurrecting Lesser Redpoll. I have found their recording of subspecies haphazard and I am unsure if they have already seen it?

All the best

DanielDoer · Jul 16, 2017

Surrey_Ed said:
What population is this based on? Thanks

I just read in a publication about cat C species in Germany that they assume it is unlikely that this species could get self sustaining populations in Europe. But theoretically it could be established earliest in 2019. That is based on the population in Northrhine-Westphalia where the species breeds annually since 1995 and the actual population size is estimated on up to 20 breeding pairs.

The publication is linked here:
http://www.club300.de/publications/index10.php

But it is written in German and if the WP Big Yearers doesn't like to go to Germany for such a stunning species as Black-browed Albatross there is no reason at all to visit German language for Wood Duck et al...

Andy Adcock · Jul 16, 2017

Paul Chapman said:
I have read reference to the latest IOC update resurrecting Lesser Redpoll. I have found their recording of subspecies haphazard and I am unsure if they have already seen it?

All the best

Whilst at the same time

'Decline proposed lump of Arctic/Hoary Redpoll w Common Redpoll'

A

flownek · Jul 16, 2017

DanielDoer said:
But it is written in German and if the WP Big Yearers doesn't like to go to Germany for such a stunning species as Black-browed Albatross there is no reason at all to visit German language for Wood Duck et al...

Daniel, be patient, I am sure they will come to Germany. I met the guys in Eilat, and when they heard where I come from they were inquiring about Yellow-headed Amazon in Stuttgart, which is not too far from my place, at least from a Swedish perspective. With a certain disgust of course (concerning the Amazon, not Stuttgart

). I guess on the same trip they will clean up with Germany's second iconic species, Swan Goose.

I assume with Wood Duck in Cat. C Germany will eventually be ahead of Portugal regarding the number of countable plastics.

Nutcracker · Jul 16, 2017

Paul Chapman said:
I have read reference to the latest IOC update resurrecting Lesser Redpoll. I have found their recording of subspecies haphazard and I am unsure if they have already seen it?

andyadcock said:
Whilst at the same time

'Decline proposed lump of Arctic/Hoary Redpoll w Common Redpoll'

Methinks Paul's second part "I have found their recording of subspecies haphazard" refers to the Swedish yearlist team, not IOC. That right, Paul? It took me a while to realise that!

Andy Adcock · Jul 16, 2017

Nutcracker said:
Methinks Paul's second part "I have found their recording of subspecies haphazard" refers to the Swedish yearlist team, not IOC. That right, Paul? It took me a while to realise that!

I did realise that Nutty and should have edited the quote to reflect.

I was simply noting that they split one and reject the lump of another which seems at odds with the recently received wisdom which was was trickling down?

A

Frenchy · Jul 16, 2017

flownek said:
Daniel, be patient, I am sure they will come to Germany. I met the guys in Eilat, and when they heard where I come from they were inquiring about Yellow-headed Amazon in Stuttgart, which is not too far from my place, at least from a Swedish perspective. With a certain disgust of course (concerning the Amazon, not Stuttgart ). I guess on the same trip they will clean up with Germany's second iconic species, Swan Goose.

I assume with Wood Duck in Cat. C Germany will eventually be ahead of Portugal regarding the number of countable plastics.

Do you have any links to the Category C species in Germany and where to find them? I've seen a few pictures of Swan Goose there and they all look like domestic geese to me.

flownek · Jul 16, 2017

Frenchy said:
Do you have any links to the Category C species in Germany and where to find them? I've seen a few pictures of Swan Goose there and they all look like domestic geese to me.

The complete list of species recorded in Germany including their category can be found here:

http://www.club300.de/ranking/birdlist_de.php

Swan Geese are given as Anser cygnoides f. domestica. Nothing more to add...

Oh, and we're still waiting for the "Where to watch plastics in Germany" to be published!

DanielDoer · Jul 16, 2017

flownek said:
Daniel, be patient, I am sure they will come to Germany....

Yes but for me it doesn't help that they will come here for the plastic (although I have to say that I personally liked to watch the Amazon in Stuttgart some ten years ago and the Alexendrine parakeet last year in Düsseldorf!) and already managed to miss the chance for the albatross (for the whole year probably?)...

Paul Chapman · Jul 16, 2017

Nutcracker said:
Methinks Paul's second part "I have found their recording of subspecies haphazard" refers to the Swedish yearlist team, not IOC. That right, Paul? It took me a while to realise that!

andyadcock said:
I did realise that Nutty and should have edited the quote to reflect.

I was simply noting that they split one and reject the lump of another which seems at odds with the recently received wisdom which was trickling down?

A

Yes - I was referring to the WP Team's recording of subspecies. If you click on Taxonomic rather than date, it organises their year list in taxonomic order:-

http://www.bigyearwp.com/index.php/igoterra-ticks/

On redpolls:-

239 Common Redpoll Acanthis flammea flammea 01.20 Sweden
244 Arctic Redpoll Acanthis hornemanni 01.23 Sweden

On Yellow Wagtails, some obvious missing holes perhaps:-

156 Western Yellow Wagtail Motacilla flava 01.12 Kuwait
Western Yellow Wagtail Motacilla flava lutea 04.09 Kuwait
Western Yellow Wagtail Motacilla flava iberiae 02.03 Morocco
Western Yellow Wagtail Motacilla flava pygmaea 05.12 Egypt
Western Yellow Wagtail Motacilla flava feldegg 03.24 Israel
Western Yellow Wagtail Motacilla flava thunbergi 02.03 Morocco

All the best

Frenchy · Jul 16, 2017

flownek said:
The complete list of species recorded in Germany including their category can be found here:

http://www.club300.de/ranking/birdlist_de.php

Swan Geese are given as Anser cygnoides f. domestica. Nothing more to add...

Oh, and we're still waiting for the "Where to watch plastics in Germany" to be published!

Thanks. Anser cygnoides f. domestica says it all really!

Frenchy · Jul 16, 2017

flownek said:
The complete list of species recorded in Germany including their category can be found here:

http://www.club300.de/ranking/birdlist_de.php

Swan Geese are given as Anser cygnoides f. domestica. Nothing more to add...

Oh, and we're still waiting for the "Where to watch plastics in Germany" to be published!

Interesting that there is no mention of Rhea on the German list as Cat C. I know that there is the "3 generations" thing before a species can be classed as Cat C in Germany, but seems they are breeding well and have been for 16 years or so. Let down by their own longevity!

http://www.10000birds.com/greater-rheas-germanys-new-big-bird.htm

Certainly a better bird than those horrendous Swan Geese!

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