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Old Monday 22nd January 2007, 11:41   #1
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+3, Sk. Bk. ? DO You DRAW WITH.

Shrike & Avocet. Pen & ink. Tried out a Rotoring pen with these two. Could not get on with it.To scratchy , had to be kept upright. Not fluid enough for me. I will keep to my dip pen with a fine point nib. Puffin in Watercolour,must have been breezy that day. Leaning backwards holding on with the tips of its toes.
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Old Monday 22nd January 2007, 12:11   #2
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Shrike & Avocet. Pen & ink. Tried out a Rotoring pen. Could not get on with it.To scratchy , had to be kept upright. Not fluid enough for me. I will keep to my dip pen with a fine point nib. Puffin in Watercolour,must have been breezy that day. Leaning backwards holding on with the tips of its toes.
You are not alone in struggling with rotoring pens- I've tried them now and again and exactly as you say- too scratchy. I wonder what they are used for-someone must get on OK with them!
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You are not alone in struggling with rotoring pens- I've tried them now and again and exactly as you say- too scratchy. I wonder what they are used for-someone must get on OK with them!
Rotring pens were used by architects and designers drawing up plans etc. I used to use them in my job as a studio manager in an advertising agency for keylines etc. I don't know how much they get used these days though, computers have pretty much superceded them.

For drawing I would often use rotrings for 'pointilism' effects, it took forever but gave some good results.

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You are not alone in struggling with rotoring pens- I've tried them now and again and exactly as you say- too scratchy. I wonder what they are used for-someone must get on OK with them!
I think Draughtsmen use them ,they are good if you want to do a straight line and dots. Arthur

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Arthur, I love the Avocet - beautifully drawn, whether or not you had difficulty with the pen, I think the final effect works really well.
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Arthur, I love the Avocet - beautifully drawn, whether or not you had difficulty with the pen, I think the final effect works really well.
Thanks I love the detail in yours too. Arthur
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Gotta sat I love rotring pens! Months of my life have passd me be as I lost myself in endless stippling, dots, dots and more dots. Has a hypnotic, trance like effect on me!
Great for detail though time consuming. Have a portfolio of these back in dublin, stored away, unfortunatly not close to hand..

Have started painting Tim by the way....!
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Hi Arthur

Love your work. Used to use pen and ink, but gone back to drawing board with pencils now, problem is I like a fine point and have to keep sharpening them every few minutes!
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Gotta sat I love rotring pens! Months of my life have passd me be as I lost myself in endless stippling, dots, dots and more dots. Has a hypnotic, trance like effect on me!
Great for detail though time consuming. Have a portfolio of these back in dublin, stored away, unfortunatly not close to hand..

Have started painting Tim by the way....!
I hope you will post on this site first, Alan! - Getting quite excited (not meant to be putting you under any pressure, just would love to see how your drawing technique translates into full colour). All the best - Tim.
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