Chaffinch or Brambling? east Scotland. (1 Viewer)

Stonefaction · Mar 5, 2016

Was sent this recent photo, taken locally by a friend, asking if it was a Brambling. A quick glance on my phone screen suggested it could be. However, looking later on a PC I was much less convinced. I think the orange on the breast is over-saturation from the camera. The bill however looks to be dark tipped and coloured. However this could also be over-saturation from the camera. The yellow flash on the wing is more suggestive of Chaffinch than it is Brambling. I think it looks more like an over-saturated Chaffinch, but there is still an element of doubt, so any opinions welcome.....

Andy Adcock · Mar 5, 2016

Brambling I think, looks orangey.

Andy

AllanM · Mar 5, 2016

I think Brambling too. Although I have seen some very orangey chaffinch this year! Also demarcation between chest and belly colouration seems Brambling.

Stonefaction · Mar 5, 2016

Brambling I think, looks orangey.

The flank that is in shadow looks pink.

Also demarcation between chest and belly colouration seems Brambling.

I don't think there is actually demarcation there, the far side of the bird is completely blown-out, giving, I think, a false impression of white whereas on the near side the colour continues down the flank and out of the sunlight, appears pink.

KGS · Mar 5, 2016

I think it's a Chaffinch. No orange in tips of gr coverts.

Ratal · Mar 5, 2016

Chaffinch for me.

Andrew Whitehouse · Mar 5, 2016

Chaffinch - the wing bar at the tip of the greater coverts looks too white for Brambling, amongst other things.

Nutcracker · Mar 5, 2016

+1 for Chaffie - too much white in the wing, not enough white on the mid-breast, for Brambling.

Motmot · Mar 5, 2016

Bill colours look brambling to me though

Stonefaction · Mar 5, 2016

This thread pretty much matches the argument I've had with myself about the photo.....

Nutcracker · Mar 5, 2016

Motmot said:
Bill colours look brambling to me though

It does, doesn't it! Reconsidering my previous post . . .

Ighalo is amazing · Mar 5, 2016

Chaffinch for me

Stonefaction · Mar 5, 2016

Originally Posted by Motmot View Post
Bill colours look brambling to me though
It does, doesn't it! Reconsidering my previous post . . .

I did mention that in the initial post....

The bill however looks to be dark tipped and coloured. However this could also be over-saturation from the camera.

Jane Turner · Mar 5, 2016

My gut reaction was Chaffinch. Now i need to work out why!

Andy Adcock · Mar 5, 2016

The colour of the breast seems to extend on to the cheeks so should be Chaffinch?

Andy

ApusApus · Mar 5, 2016

Agree with Jane, my gut feeling when I opened the photo was Chaffinch!

Shane

Ratal · Mar 5, 2016

Still a Chaffinch. Seen plenty with dark tipped and brownish bills. Ever this pic from birdguides shows it.

AllanM · Mar 5, 2016

On further reviewing I'm swayed to chaffinch also.

phil baber · Mar 6, 2016

Nutcracker said:
+1 for Chaffie - too much white in the wing, not enough white on the mid-breast, for Brambling.

Absolutely agree! It's a Chaffinch. Check the bill, and all the other details?

Stonefaction · Mar 6, 2016

Thanks, folks. My pal will be disappointed that it is just a Chaffie but it was interesting to see the discussion mirroring the 'conversation' I had with myself while trying to reach a conclusive ID for the bird.

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