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Zeiss 65`s (1 Viewer)
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Paul Jarvis
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Sounds like the retailer may not be up to date with paying their account. Hence the delay, Zeiss could be waiting for a payment before they release your scope.
Steve Jones
Well-known member
It must be driving you mad. Its a great scope, and a shame that you've had to wait so long. I've had mine 3 months now (and there was no shortage of 65's then) and can't get over how good it is. I was going to say that at least there's not many birds about, but I think all the good ones at the moment are in your county!
Steve Jones
Well-known member
andy70437 said:
So was I when I got mine, and having had it a few months now still can't believe how good an image such a small scope can deliver. Was watching the 'doubtful' Pelican on the River Ribble until 8.30pm last night in terrible light and rain. The image was still amazing even then.
Did you get the zoom?
hornet said:
Thanks for that information Marc. Still not made my mind up on what is to be my first scope. Thought I would go for an Opticron but was a little disappointed when I tried the GS 665 ed. Mind you, so many people jostling about it's clearly not ideal testing conditions. Some good reports on the Zeiss though, maybe I should try and test one under more relaxed conditions.
Jim
hornet
Well-known member
Happy shopping! With a purchase this substantial you definitely need to try in the best possible conditions. Find a good specialist retailer with decent testing facilities (like Cley Spey in Norfolk, or Focus Optics near Coventry), get an assistant who really knows there stuff, and really take your time.
And once you identified the one you want - buy it from the shop, not the internet! You might save a few bob on the Net, but you won't get the aftercare and the shop might not be there next time you want to find new gear (sorry, I'm really passionate about supporting good local retailers, particularly if you've used their facilities and done all your research there).
There's not much optically between the big four (Nikon, Zeiss, Leica and Swarovski) so in my experience it's down to small individual factors - what features matter most to you, handling, brand favouritism etc.
Oh, and remember that absolutely everyone recommends the brand they use themselves (except me, cos I reckon the Leica 62 is better than the Zeiss 65, but I got the Zeiss much cheaper than I could the Leica, and that sealed the deal - never regretted it for a second, mind.)
And once you identified the one you want - buy it from the shop, not the internet! You might save a few bob on the Net, but you won't get the aftercare and the shop might not be there next time you want to find new gear (sorry, I'm really passionate about supporting good local retailers, particularly if you've used their facilities and done all your research there).
There's not much optically between the big four (Nikon, Zeiss, Leica and Swarovski) so in my experience it's down to small individual factors - what features matter most to you, handling, brand favouritism etc.
Oh, and remember that absolutely everyone recommends the brand they use themselves (except me, cos I reckon the Leica 62 is better than the Zeiss 65, but I got the Zeiss much cheaper than I could the Leica, and that sealed the deal - never regretted it for a second, mind.)
scampo
Steve Campsall
They are all pretty good at the top end for sure. What can be said for the Zeiss, if you buy the zoom, is that it is uniquely wide angled regarding its field of view - and if that quality appeals, then nothing else comes close. There is a small trade off in that the outer edges of the field are not as sharp as the other top makes - but then those outer edges are much further out!passerine said:
scampo said:
Any significant difference in eye relief? As a specs wearer this is obviously important. Wish I could have persevered more at the Zeiss stand at Birdfair - managed a quick look through a range of their bins - absolutely superb. At the In Focus section I found an unattended scope - turned out to be the Pentax 80 ed. Very impressive indeed. Think they said that they were going to start stocking them - will have to go out to Rutland and finally make my mind up. For eyepiece/scope my budget is £800
hornet
Well-known member
I think eye relief on all the big brands will be fine - I've certainly got no problems with the Zeiss zoom, nor with the Leica when I've used it.
Budget might be a problem for new stuff - I've got a feeling that the Swaro / Leica combos are closer to £1,000 - Zeiss / Nikon are a bit cheaper I think.
Second hand would be a great alternative cos all these models should go on for years. Might leave a bit of cash for a stay on case, decent tripod etc.
Budget might be a problem for new stuff - I've got a feeling that the Swaro / Leica combos are closer to £1,000 - Zeiss / Nikon are a bit cheaper I think.
Second hand would be a great alternative cos all these models should go on for years. Might leave a bit of cash for a stay on case, decent tripod etc.
pduxon
Quacked up Member
I think Steve is right optically there isn't a vast amount between any of the 60mm scopes.
I'm not convinced that the Nikon zoom is quite up with Leica/Swaro (haven't looked through a zeiss lately for it to be meaningful) not so much the image as the general comfort factor.
IF I was buying today I'd probably go for the EDIII with 30ww or Zeiss with zoom. Not the optics but price. Is the Swaro really £200 better with a fixed eye piece?
prices with zoom/fixed (for angled)
Nikon 798/758
zeiss 858/798
leica 989/909
swaro 1018/958
The ED82 with wideangled lens looks a good buy.
If in-focus are stocking pentax i wonder if they'll have the PF65ED that americans rave about?
I'm not convinced that the Nikon zoom is quite up with Leica/Swaro (haven't looked through a zeiss lately for it to be meaningful) not so much the image as the general comfort factor.
IF I was buying today I'd probably go for the EDIII with 30ww or Zeiss with zoom. Not the optics but price. Is the Swaro really £200 better with a fixed eye piece?
prices with zoom/fixed (for angled)
Nikon 798/758
zeiss 858/798
leica 989/909
swaro 1018/958
The ED82 with wideangled lens looks a good buy.
If in-focus are stocking pentax i wonder if they'll have the PF65ED that americans rave about?
pduxon said:
Yes - the sales rep took it out of the box while I was there - I'm a real novice but it looked very small to these untutored eyes. You can see details of the 65 ed on Ace Cameras website - Hilton Photographic also deals in them. Will go out to In Focus and check it out along with some other makes.
Jim
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pduxon
Quacked up Member
hornet said:
well I own the Leica
At the time prices were similar with the swaro more expensive.I think the Leica is marginally better than the Nikon/Zeiss but not worth that difference. The Swaro/Leica are VERY close.
incidentally you could buy an EDIII/zoom AND get the ED50 compared to a Swaro.... no brainer....
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