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Gull Confirmations Please, London, UK (1 Viewer)

Clarke Robinson

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Hi Everyone

I took these recently in my local haunt of Kensington Gardens, and I just wanted to make sure I've correctly ID'd them. (Probably not lol!)

1. Common Gull
2. Herring Gull
3. Common Gull

Thanks in advance.
 

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I was thinking the other way around:

1. Herring
2. Common, but not confident
3. Herring

Those were my impressions, I haven't opened the book. ;)
 
1 and 3 are herring, I think 2 is aswell with the scapulars, just a little put off by the very dark tertials without much notching. There are no common gulls here, that I'm certain of.
 
Hi,

Could the second bird be a first cycle Lesser Black-backed Gull with replaced first alternate scapulars? It has that sleek, long-winged look to it. The wings are scrunched into the flanks, obscuring the greater covert patterning.

Chris
 
One could be tempted to say that they are all Herring Gulls - but only 1 & 3 fits in that category. Nr 2 is a LBBG as suggested by Chris.

http://www.gull-research.org/lbbg1cy/deh4273064.htm

http://www.gull-research.org/lbbg1cy/nla5410095.htm

http://www.gull-research.org/lbbg1cy/nla5410093.htm

Note jizz and pattern and paleness of more advanced in moult scapulars on thes Herring Gulls:

http://www.gull-research.org/hg/hg1cy/fbadnov.html

As mentioned by Chris the outer greater coverts are hidden, the inners are quite similar to any Herring and the outers could be dark-centered or like the inners on the subject gull.

JanJ
 
just a remark that bird no 3 is unusually white on underwings and esp. undertail-coverts, which don't show any pattern! but still HG.
 
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