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Conservation in the Trumpocene (1 Viewer)
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Indeed, spot on!
Ah, at last, you've finally mastered the format, thought you'd never get there! Your brain is less fossilized and you have better control of your emotions than I thought. But next on the agenda is content and that, I predict, will continue to be your undoing.
litebeam
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Undoing?
Just getting started, like the rest of the great 'flyover unwashed'...
Coming to Europe too.
Buckle up...that is unless you aren't a fossil-fueled hypocrite and ride a skateboard...
When you earnestly address Poptech's extensive work (agreed or not) only then will you have even an ounce of credibility.
Ps...you can do better than the Marxist rotten bait, the mundane links,...insults.
I mean, Marx would never leave California for R E N O, where does that leave you? Grin.
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Just getting started, like the rest of the great 'flyover unwashed'...
Coming to Europe too.
Buckle up...that is unless you aren't a fossil-fueled hypocrite and ride a skateboard...
When you earnestly address Poptech's extensive work (agreed or not) only then will you have even an ounce of credibility.
Ps...you can do better than the Marxist rotten bait, the mundane links,...insults.
I mean, Marx would never leave California for R E N O, where does that leave you? Grin.
:king:
Nope, not getting started, just finishing. The Republican establishment--much less an unprincipled sleazeball like Trump--has no solutions to our problems which can only be effectively and humanely dealt with by some form of democratic socialism. Trust me, Trump and his establishment allies will betray you, just like their sort always has, leaving all of us except the financial and corporate elites worse off than before.
And I was wrong, your emotions--i. e., childish resentments--are as uncontrolled as ever, I see: "hypocrite" progressives traveling by automobile, "flyover unwashed". Whine, whine, whine.
Poptech's "extensive work" is mere fossil-fuel industry buffoonery, containing nothing worthy of reply. As for what you rightly identify as Trumpian equivalents--the European neo-Nazi parties--I wouldn't place too much confidence in their prospects if I were you.
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Peter C.
...just zis guy, you know?
Oh, and CNN (that bastion of Red journalism), ABC, NBC, those people,...
PS. I never said you voted Romney, or liked him - but he was the source of the false story that you are repeating, so you are implicitly a supporter, like it or not.
Books not cooked, a surprise to no one except PopTech (though, I suspect in my cynical way, not even to him!) and his dupes--
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s-theory-debunked_us_586bf909e4b0eb58648ac638
Another account of this research--
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/...ke-earths-oceans-are-steadily-warming/512189/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s-theory-debunked_us_586bf909e4b0eb58648ac638
Another account of this research--
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/...ke-earths-oceans-are-steadily-warming/512189/
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litebeam
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Ha! Love it!
"Just finishing"....dunno what you're toking, Fugl, but keep telling yourself that.
I suspect that many are still trying find reason right now.
Good luck with that, y'all blew your chance. And frankly there is no light on the horizon either. It's gotta sting...
And the only 'wine-ing' I've been doing is in celebration.....oft-nourished with liberal tears. Schadenfreude.. B
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litebeam
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Indeed...those people. Wikileaks exposed them for what they are...
Your assertions are baloney, I read O's speeches from that 'tour'...Romney has nothing to do with it.
With your logic, a) Hitler believed the world is round. b) You believe the world is round. c) You are a member of the Nazi party.
Pure rubbish.
Obama has always thought we (the U.S) are the source of many of the world's problems. We aren't perfect but we are a benevolent nation, always there to help others.
The progressive media matters little to me at this point, they are the ones fighting for relevancy.
Sorry, flyover country will become even more so under the Trump administration as you will soon learn. . .. In fact, something you would have already learned if you'd had the wit to realize the implications of his cabinet appointments. The man himself, a small mind in a big fat unhealthy body, his election a mere spurt, a spasm, a final unproductive ejaculation of bad seed on stony ground.
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litebeam
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litebeam
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....Could write a book of hopeful expectations.
For starters:
A concerned, engaged Veteran's Administration.
Renewed hope for jobs for the 95,000,000 out of the workforce.
Repeal disastrous Obamacare. O expected O-CARE to collapse under it's own weight and for Hillary to implement a single payer, gov't-run healthcare. SURPRISE!
Offer solid healthcare with myriad competing insurance options, with across-state-line buying opportunities.
Prudent use of OUR OWN natural resources. Screw the middle east. Hypocrite progressives want their cars but want to ban oil. They want electric cars, but no coal-fired plants, no dams for hydro-electic power. Newsflash, solar ain't cutting it in many latitudes.
More expectations...
Accountability for Gov't agencies. TEA party-type orgs shouldn't be subject to audit due to political vindictiveness.
Lower taxes, especially for small business, the engine of the U.S.
The dumping of Common Core. eg. 1+2=4
The improving of race relations. Obama has destroyed unity in this country.
The edification of our law enforcement, Obama has destroyed the persona of LEO.
Protection of our 2nd Amendment. And before those who blame guns for crime, look at Chicago, our American Beirut. Young Black men are killing each other and are dying by the hundreds every month in a gun-free city. Beyond sad.
An infinitely stronger military with a peace-through-strength, 'war as a last resort' mentality.
A built-by-Americans, buy-from-Americans mentality.
A 1000-fold tighter border. We are a melting pot, "Welcome to America" should be our attitude, but GET IN LINE.
Immigration may be the biggest reason that DJT was elected, imo.
I'll continue my thoughts on conservation in another posting, we have about 30" of global warming out there that needs plowed (seriously) before it hits below zero tomorrow and thereafter.
Thanks for your positing your questions....
For starters:
A concerned, engaged Veteran's Administration.
Renewed hope for jobs for the 95,000,000 out of the workforce.
Repeal disastrous Obamacare. O expected O-CARE to collapse under it's own weight and for Hillary to implement a single payer, gov't-run healthcare. SURPRISE!
Offer solid healthcare with myriad competing insurance options, with across-state-line buying opportunities.
Prudent use of OUR OWN natural resources. Screw the middle east. Hypocrite progressives want their cars but want to ban oil. They want electric cars, but no coal-fired plants, no dams for hydro-electic power. Newsflash, solar ain't cutting it in many latitudes.
More expectations...
Accountability for Gov't agencies. TEA party-type orgs shouldn't be subject to audit due to political vindictiveness.
Lower taxes, especially for small business, the engine of the U.S.
The dumping of Common Core. eg. 1+2=4
The improving of race relations. Obama has destroyed unity in this country.
The edification of our law enforcement, Obama has destroyed the persona of LEO.
Protection of our 2nd Amendment. And before those who blame guns for crime, look at Chicago, our American Beirut. Young Black men are killing each other and are dying by the hundreds every month in a gun-free city. Beyond sad.
An infinitely stronger military with a peace-through-strength, 'war as a last resort' mentality.
A built-by-Americans, buy-from-Americans mentality.
A 1000-fold tighter border. We are a melting pot, "Welcome to America" should be our attitude, but GET IN LINE.
Immigration may be the biggest reason that DJT was elected, imo.
I'll continue my thoughts on conservation in another posting, we have about 30" of global warming out there that needs plowed (seriously) before it hits below zero tomorrow and thereafter.
Thanks for your positing your questions....
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Yeah, conservation, that's the toughie, isn't it? Trouble is Trump & co. have zero interest in conservation so there's nothing for you to "retweet" to us on the subject. It will be a new experience for you, thinking things through on your own, and I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with.
"Edification", another word you need to work on before using it in a sentence. . .. Dto for "persona".
dalat
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Yeah, we also have a bit of snow currently. I guess that's because it's winter in our latitudes now. It's summer elsewhere and e.g. Australia right now suffers a heat wave. Local weather and seasons aside, 2016 has globally been the hottest year since records started, and the second hottest year in the US.
But I take it from your remark, that you're not overly concerned about this, and suppose you don't expect Trump to be concerned either.
So any other fields of conservation where you expect anything good coming out of a Trump administration?
MJB
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litebeam
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I listed myriad areas of change in my posting, and you're picking nits instead of addressing any real substance.
Precisely why the Dems are down 1000 seats nationally, almost 100 year lows. Majority of Governors, majority in House, Senate, WH....it's giggle worthy.
Cha-Ching....
Well done, most of America thanks you and so do I.
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litebeam
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You'd be right!
I certainly don't see harm.
I see merit in DJT's positions re: the Dakota and Keystone pipelines rather than the transporting of that oil in less stable means, like rail.
Developing our own natural resources (Texas, Dakotas, Arctic, etc) is paramount geopolitically and economically, and frankly it's less oil being barged on our oceans.
Americans don't buy the progressive hysteria like the demise of the "Appalachian Trail" like was posted earlier. Pure bunk forwarded by groups like the Sierra Club.
Like most things that started out with best intentions, unions, etc, the EPA has gotten out of control and I look forward to seeing Trump get things back in line.
I'm not a fan of nuclear energy, I haven't researched DJT's position on it.
I do know that the overall silence from the Obama admin on the Fukushima disaster has been shameful. It's a global disaster, IMHO.
I've said it before, we need to do these things (Keystone, etc) prudently to avoid environmental issues, but to say that they prompt the end of our planet is stupidity.
I'd be remiss to not reiterate..it's the condescending, progressive Fuglian™ attitude that is why we are poised for MAGA. It's going to be a great 8 years.
Edit>>> likely not changing any minds and I've spent way too much time typing here. Moving on.
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But nothing about Muslims. Does that mean you're less frightened of a Muslim takeover than you used to be?
A wise decision. Hasta la vista.
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