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Old Thursday 7th December 2006, 19:39   #26
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Doh! Anyone with an ounce of imagination could see it's supposed to be a wood pigeon -oh well, back to the drawing board
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I had to try another one.
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Old Thursday 7th December 2006, 21:26   #28
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Hey Deborah,have you found you missing specticles yet?

Think I know who the culprit is

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I know I shouldn't rise to your bait, Matt - particularly not after celebrating a victorious pool evening, but a challenge is a challenge. Rest assured, however - it's a first and a last attempt - such a frustrating medium.
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I know I shouldn't rise to your bait, Matt - particularly not after celebrating a victorious pool evening, but a challenge is a challenge. Rest assured, however - it's a first and a last attempt - such a frustrating medium.
Wow! Very 3 dimensional. Looks like it's flying out of the screen.

What software did you use Tim?

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LOL! I believe you Bob! (still pretty impressive though )

Here's a 15 minute jobby doodle from me
Very nice Deborah.

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Rest assured, however - it's a first and a last attempt - such a frustrating medium.
Sorry to hear you are not joining the digital revolution...you could do away with all those messy paint tubes, jars of water, brushes, all that clutter
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Question RFI Computer art software and hardware

Is there anyone out there with experience of such things as electronic drawing/painting software and hardware please?

Thanks in advance for any help, advice and experiences.

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Thanks in advance for any help, advice and experiences.

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I work pretty much exclusively with a combination of photoshop and graphics pen/ tablet these days as there just isn't enough time to get the paints out. Mostly detailed work, but occasioanlly a rush of blood to the head as per another thread on here! Once you have mastered it, that kind of system is radically more efficient than the traditional methods, at least for illustration. Still challenging though- you still have to draw and paint..

For proper art, of course, proper artists tools are required (but biros will do as demonstrated on here)..although there is some astonishing graphic design work being done away from the bird field in the photoshop world.

I'm happy to share more if you are interested, on here or by PM.

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I know I shouldn't rise to your bait, Matt - particularly not after celebrating a victorious pool evening, but a challenge is a challenge. Rest assured, however - it's a first and a last attempt - such a frustrating medium.

Absolutely stunning!

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I work pretty much exclusively with a combination of photoshop and graphics pen/ tablet these days as there just isn't enough time to get the paints out. Mostly detailed work, but occasioanlly a rush of blood to the head as per another thread on here! Once you have mastered it, that kind of system is radically more efficient than the traditional methods, at least for illustration. Still challenging though- you still have to draw and paint..

For proper art, of course, proper artists tools are required (but biros will do as demonstrated on here)..although there is some astonishing graphic design work being done away from the bird field in the photoshop world.

I'm happy to share more if you are interested, on here or by PM.

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Thanks Ed,

Are there any brands/makes of software and graphics pens and tablets you would recommend? What do they cost? Is there any freeware or budget software you would think OK for a beginner/pauper?

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Thanks Ed,

Are there any brands/makes of software and graphics pens and tablets you would recommend? What do they cost? Is there any freeware or budget software you would think OK for a beginner/pauper?

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Hi Chris,
I just downloaded a free piece of software called Artweaver. It seems to be more difficult to use at first than MS Paint but it looks like there is loads more you can do with it if you persevere.

I might invest in a pen/tablet myself. The old mouse is a bit uncontrllable.

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Wow! Very 3 dimensional. Looks like it's flying out of the screen.

What software did you use Tim?

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Hi Des - I used photoshop for this wooden duck! Unlike Ed (who clearly knows a damn site more than me about, well, probably everything) I'm still using a steam-powered pointing device called a MOUSE - I think Ed has a Light-sabre or something. I remember once reading about these new-fangled graphics tools, but put them firmly into the cupboard marked 'Fanciful Thinking, The Round-Earth and Other Things Which Won't Happen!
If you're seriously interested - Photoshop allows one to work in layers - the only way to get believable (by 'believable' I really mean 'photographically believable' as there are, of course, many truths) and it's a good trick to get the hang of useing the smudge and blur tools - soft, out-of-focus effects etc.
Whatever, don't forget to keep your pencil sharp!!!! (Baaa, Humbug!)
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Hi Des - I used photoshop for this wooden duck! Unlike Ed (who clearly knows a damn site more than me about, well, probably everything) I'm still using a steam-powered pointing device called a MOUSE - I think Ed has a Light-sabre or something. I remember once reading about these new-fangled graphics tools, but put them firmly into the cupboard marked 'Fanciful Thinking, The Round-Earth and Other Things Which Won't Happen!

If you're seriously interested - Photoshop allows one to work in layers - the only way to get believable (by 'believable' I really mean 'photographically believable' as there are, of course, many truths) and it's a good trick to get the hang of useing the smudge and blur tools - soft, out-of-focus effects etc.
Whatever, don't forget to keep your pencil sharp!!!! (Baaa, Humbug!)
Light sabres available from here: Intuos 3 from Wacom http://www.wacom.com/productinfo/intuos.cfm- simply brilliant (nope- not sponsored by them ). But there will be plenty of others out there as well.

I definitely don't know about system requirements except that the sabre works on MAC or PC. You do need enough speed RAM or whatever to ensure that there is no time lag, i.e. the speed at which paint is displayed on the monitor matches the speed you move your pen over the tablet.

As for smudge and blur in photoshop- those two plus the clone tool and gradient tool would be my top 4 most used- apart from yer brush and eraser. I do have a paint a feather in photoshop tutorial, but that might send Tim over the edge..

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AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
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AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
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Call out the lifeboat!
Is this becoming a bit of a Witch-Hunt? (Now there's something I do know about - good old-fashioned values being upheld, dunking stools ((not that kind of stool!)) - small children up chimneys ((preferably yer'own - children and chimneys)) - diptheria, smallpox . . . ahhh the good old days in Barnsley . . . . .) - wipes a tear away.
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Is this becoming a bit of a Witch-Hunt? (Now there's something I do know about - good old-fashioned values being upheld, dunking stools ((not that kind of stool!)) - small children up chimneys ((preferably yer'own - children and chimneys)) - diptheria, smallpox . . . ahhh the good old days in Barnsley . . . . .) - wipes a tear away.
Just concerned for your well-being Tim!
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Shame we can't just pop off to the pub now . . .
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Deborah - that is a scarily lifelike rendition (try and enlarge the image so we can see the whole text!). Very good (I think?)
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Think I know who the culprit is

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LOL!! Ive just seen this Matt

(you now owe me one Dell keyboard, Ive just spluttered a mouthful of coffee all over mine

Here's another attempt - somewhat limited by pencil, brush or spray paint and a little black mouse who is not yet domesticated. (copied from the front of Collins just to complete the education of our 'real artists' on the forum )

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Love it!!

(just trying to think who it reminds me off )
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