Thanks, PostcardCV and John, got the Travellers yesterday, used them in the field (Kilcoole Marsh) today, very impressed. Great Optics, genuinely compact 8x32, locking ring a bit pointless but no problem, I don´t find the DOF any problem, FOV could be wider but the nearest "compact" 8x32 with a wider FOV costs an extra 1,000 euro and isn´t actually compact. Which defeats the purpose. All in all, great value for money, really usable pocket bins, thanks again for the advice.