Two Torts, Norway (1 Viewer)

SveinB

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• Aug 4, 2011

• #1

They are both from my garden trap this morning.

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.

Svein B

 

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hjalava

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• Aug 4, 2011

• #2

1. Notocelia roborana,
2. Epinotia gimmerthaliana.

 

SveinB

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• Aug 5, 2011

• #3

Thanks a lot again Harri!

Svein B

 

SveinB

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• Aug 5, 2011

• #4

I should have said that in the first post- but the one ID'ed as E. gimmerthaliana is quite large, 10 mm length. I was thinking maybe E. maculana or E. solandriana at first.

I had another tort in my trap today, very vey small- about 5 mm length. I add a photo of that one too. Am I right about E. gimmerthaliana for this one too- or maybe E. cruciana??

Svein B

 

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hjalava

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• Aug 6, 2011

• #5

Yes, this looks like gimmerthaliana to me, too.
The second moth could be maculana.

 

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SveinB

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• Aug 6, 2011

• #6

Yes, I think the same too Harri. Thank You again.

Svein B

 

SveinB

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• Aug 6, 2011

• #7

I have been looking over and over for the moth on photo #2 here, I must admit I am a bit in doubt about it. I think it might be Epinotia indecorana, a species I have never seen before. I had two more in my trap today, I add photos of them too. What do You think?

Svein B

 

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hjalava

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• Aug 7, 2011

• #8

You are probably right. E. indecorana is smaller than maculana, the dorsal blotch of which has no clear borders. These have a distinct, grey dorsal blotch, which make them Epinotia indecorana. It is not sure if E. trigonella and indecorana are different species.

 

SveinB

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• Aug 8, 2011

• #9

Ok, thanks a lot for Your comment again Harri. I add two new photos of another one of the same "type", but I am thinking this might be E. trigonella, with the bright dorsal blotch. Any thoughts about that?

Svein B

 

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hjalava

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• Aug 9, 2011

• #10

Yes, trigonella.

 

SveinB

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• Aug 9, 2011

• #11

Good, thanks a lot again Harri.

Svein B