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Three From the Salt Marsh - LI, NY (1 Viewer)

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wasn't 100% sure of these , thanks!
 

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Assuming these are recent shots, Nelson's should still be on the breeding grounds (the furthest south they breed is New Hampshire). This looks like a Saltmarsh Sparrow to me. The pale lores and narrow line behind the eye match that species better than Seaside Sparrow.
 
Another for Saltmarsh, Nelsons ( the only similar Sparrow with that 'orange and grey' head pattern ) has a less clearly marked head, distinct, sharply delineated buff colour to the breast and flanks and diffuse, poorly marked streaking to the breast on Atlantic coast birds.
 
Well I learned something today, Nelson's got split into saltmarsh sparrow. Was wondering what you were all going on about, never heard of a "saltmarsh" sparrow before.
 
Actually Sharp-tailed Sparrow got split into Saltmarsh Sharp-tailed Sparrow and Nelson's Sharp-tailed Sparrow.

But eventually those names proved too cumbersome, and they simplified them to Saltmarsh Sparrow and Nelson's Sparrow.
 
Jeff hopkins said:
But eventually those names proved too cumbersome, and they simplified them to Saltmarsh Sparrow and Nelson's Sparrow.
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To which I (and many others, I would hazard) said "whew!"

See here for an account of the split. Written by David Sibley nearer to the event, in Birding, June '96.
 
Seems I live in the old days. I only knew of two "wetland" species, LeConte's and (Nelson's) Sharp-tailed sparrow.

Trust the east coast to make everything more complicated.
 
I hope you discovered the King/Clapper Rail splits and that Nutmeg Manikin now is Scaly-breasted Munia (and that the latter one is tickable in CA) ;)

Niels
 
Yes, but I've never seen Nutmeg Mannikin/Scaly-breasted Munia or any kind of rail except coots anyway.

I think I'm up to date now, just missed out on the saltmarsh. Not that I've ever seen any of those eastern sparrows anyway
 
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