gerdwichers8
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namq said:
Robin
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gerdwichers8
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On the supposed Garden Warbler I say no because:
Although the bill shows a darker underside to the lower mandible, it is still too thin and overall too horn yellow, unlike Garden Warbler.
The white eyering is especially behind the eye broad, unlike Garden Warbler.
The colour, although a bit overexposed is pale brown; a Garden Warbler has darker colour.
Leg colour is not dark green/grey either but yellow grey.
The tail is not square cut but from the central tailfeathers outwards, the one pair being a bit longer than the next symetrical pair, which results in a bit rounded tail.
So it is a Marsh Warbler.
Although the bill shows a darker underside to the lower mandible, it is still too thin and overall too horn yellow, unlike Garden Warbler.
The white eyering is especially behind the eye broad, unlike Garden Warbler.
The colour, although a bit overexposed is pale brown; a Garden Warbler has darker colour.
Leg colour is not dark green/grey either but yellow grey.
The tail is not square cut but from the central tailfeathers outwards, the one pair being a bit longer than the next symetrical pair, which results in a bit rounded tail.
So it is a Marsh Warbler.
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lou salomon
the birdonist
well, with that bill, song thrush is the most likely candidate i think.
gerdwichers8
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I tried to find a match but it has apparently been harder than you think Namq.
For Song Trush this link, but it makes me say no for that.
http://www.oiseaux.net/photos/thierry.tancrez/song.thrush.1.html#fiche
For Song Trush this link, but it makes me say no for that.
http://www.oiseaux.net/photos/thierry.tancrez/song.thrush.1.html#fiche
lou salomon
the birdonist
not a wheatear. firstly biotop is totally wrong (w. prefers open country, not gardens), then bill is too big for a juv wheatear and then plumage is wrong too. but it must be a member of the turdidae (not necessarily turdinae?)
gerdwichers8
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For Spotted Flycatcher, the bill would not be right: in juvenile plumage all black.(and so on)
For Northern Wheatear : no the bill is black in that species as well (and so on)
I even considered the pipits but no, compared to the background thingies and again the bill of the bird, it s too big for that.
I dd say its a very young fieldfare ( I say it whispering) with its tailfeathers still in the shaft: bill is okay for that among the thrushes and in juvenile plumage it still has a whitish greater covert band. Spotted on the upperparts and underparts in that plumage.
abundant in Poland. ( even more than Mistle Thrush)
For Northern Wheatear : no the bill is black in that species as well (and so on)
I even considered the pipits but no, compared to the background thingies and again the bill of the bird, it s too big for that.
I dd say its a very young fieldfare ( I say it whispering) with its tailfeathers still in the shaft: bill is okay for that among the thrushes and in juvenile plumage it still has a whitish greater covert band. Spotted on the upperparts and underparts in that plumage.
abundant in Poland. ( even more than Mistle Thrush)
Joern Lehmhus
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But why not a mistle thrush? wouldn´t that even fit better with this coloration?
gerdwichers8
Well-known member
These are young Mistle Thrushes in their nest
The author of the photo admitted its' parents were more similar to a Thrush than to a Wheatear - unfortunately she has no photos - that's all I know from her 
Some more photos taken today:
1. Green Sandpiper ?
2. Whimbrel ?
3.
4. Willow Tit ?
Thanks in advance!
Some more photos taken today:
1. Green Sandpiper ?
2. Whimbrel ?
3.
4. Willow Tit ?
Thanks in advance!
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1. Greenshank
2. Whimbrel
3. Tricky - might be Savi's Warbler
4. Hard (for me at least!) to say if it's Marsh or Willow Tit on this picture
2. Whimbrel
3. Tricky - might be Savi's Warbler
4. Hard (for me at least!) to say if it's Marsh or Willow Tit on this picture
Willow Tit probably very likely for number four, thinking about it. It's quite grey and the bib is rather extensive.
gerdwichers8
Well-known member
marsh warbler for 3
Mike Johnston
Well-known member
I'd agree with above:
1. Greenshank in winter plumage - slightly upturned bill, 'green' legs, dark loral stripe.
2. Whimbrel - shorter bill, distinctive crown pattern.
3. Marsh Warbler - buff wash to underparts, pale legs and dark claws.
4. Willow Tit - extensive white cheek patch, larger black bib, less mantle, pale edgings to secondaries and tertials, rounded tail tip.
1. Greenshank in winter plumage - slightly upturned bill, 'green' legs, dark loral stripe.
2. Whimbrel - shorter bill, distinctive crown pattern.
3. Marsh Warbler - buff wash to underparts, pale legs and dark claws.
4. Willow Tit - extensive white cheek patch, larger black bib, less mantle, pale edgings to secondaries and tertials, rounded tail tip.
Thanks for the IDs! All of them besides No. 1 (Greenshank) are new to me
About the bird in post #84: I've seen some photos of imm. Spotted Flycatchers and it seems to fit (the bill also). I have to find the photo of imm. Spotted Flycatchers with their parents...
Some more photos taken today:
1. Caspian Tern ?
2. Golden Plover ??
3. Ruff ?
4. Turnstone + Redshank ?
5. ?
Thanks in advance. More to follow
About the bird in post #84: I've seen some photos of imm. Spotted Flycatchers and it seems to fit (the bill also). I have to find the photo of imm. Spotted Flycatchers with their parents...
Some more photos taken today:
1. Caspian Tern ?
2. Golden Plover ??
3. Ruff ?
4. Turnstone + Redshank ?
5. ?
Thanks in advance. More to follow
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1. Caspian Tern
2. Looks more like a Grey Plover
3. I think a Curlew Sandpiper
4. Redshank and Turnstone
5. Common Sandpiper
2. Looks more like a Grey Plover
3. I think a Curlew Sandpiper
4. Redshank and Turnstone
5. Common Sandpiper
