IOC World Bird List v5.1 (1 Viewer)

Richard Klim · Jan 13, 2015

www.worldbirdnames.org/

NOTE (1/11/2015): Transition to Version 5.1 is underway. Thanks for your patience

Life List+ and Master list now online.
Also, Peter Kovalik's Comparison with other world lists now additionally includes H&M4 Vol 2. :t:
www.worldbirdnames.org/ioc-lists/

James Lowther · Jan 13, 2015

good old Peter!

not really related, but is there a comprehensive comparison of H&M3 and H&M4 anywhere?

James

Nutcracker · Jan 13, 2015

NOTE (1/11/2015)

Nice to see they've already issued the update for the first of November this year!

twentywell · Jan 13, 2015

Nutcracker said:
Nice to see they've already issued the update for the first of November this year!

I'll take the bait! 1/11/2015 is the Americanised 11 January 2015!!

MS

Paul Clapham · Jan 15, 2015

James Lowther said:
not really related, but is there a comprehensive comparison of H&M3 and H&M4 anywhere?

Here's my attempt:

http://members.shaw.ca/Claphams/Birds/HandM3to4.html

Comments, corrections, etc welcomed.

James Lowther · Jan 15, 2015

Paul Clapham said:
Here's my attempt:

http://members.shaw.ca/Claphams/Birds/HandM3to4.html

Comments, corrections, etc welcomed.

looks great thanks Paul,
James

Nutcracker · Jan 15, 2015

Paul Clapham said:
Here's my attempt:

http://members.shaw.ca/Claphams/Birds/HandM3to4.html

Comments, corrections, etc welcomed.

Typo in Pheucticus ("Pheuticus") at #9739 :t:

Paul Clapham · Jan 15, 2015

Nutcracker said:
Typo in Pheucticus ("Pheuticus") at #9739 :t:

Yup... that's how it's spelled in H&M 3. It was fixed in one of the Corrigenda documents.

8669 · Jan 15, 2015

Paul Clapham said:
Here's my attempt:

http://members.shaw.ca/Claphams/Birds/HandM3to4.html

Comments, corrections, etc welcomed.

Typo in #3818 Microcarbo pygmaeus (should be M. pygmeus).

Theo

Richard Klim · Jan 15, 2015

8669 said:
Typo in #3818 Microcarbo pygmaeus (should be M. pygmeus).

Another H&M3 spelling – corrected in H&M4 (as Paul has indicated).

8669 · Jan 15, 2015

Richard Klim said:
Another H&M3 spelling – corrected in H&M4 (as Paul has indicated).

Not in my H&M4.

Theo

EDIT: sorry, corrected in Volume2

Paul Clapham · Jan 15, 2015

There was a surprising number of ordinary typos in H&M 3, but most of them got caught pretty quickly and fixed in the corrigenda.

Fortunately (at least from what I can see) H&M 4 was produced using a database as its source, thereby cutting down on this kind of thing. It's a lot easier to use a computer to notice the presence of one Pheuticus among a list of Pheucticuses than it is to have a person read the list.

Nutcracker · Jan 15, 2015

Paul Clapham said:
Pheucticuses

Pheuctici, please! :-O

James Lowther · Jan 22, 2015

Paul Clapham said:
Here's my attempt:

http://members.shaw.ca/Claphams/Birds/HandM3to4.html

Comments, corrections, etc welcomed.

Hi Paul,
i don't think the Turdus mandarinus split is captured fully?
James

Richard Klim · Jan 22, 2015

James Lowther said:
i don't think the Turdus mandarinus split is captured fully?

I initially found it rather confusing that the sequence adopted for Turdus by H&M (based upon Nylander et al 2008) results in T merula sensu lato spanning seven pages...

Turdus merula Eurasian Blackbird: p622
Turdus mandarinus Eastern Blackbird: p624
Turdus simillimus Indian Blackbird: p627
Turdus maximus Tibetan Blackbird: p628

MJB · Jan 22, 2015

Richard Klim said:
I initially found it rather confusing that the sequence adopted for Turdus by H&M (based upon Nylander et al 2008) results in T merula sensu lato spanning seven pages...

Turdus merula Eurasian Blackbird: p622

Turdus mandarinus Eastern Blackbird: p624

Turdus simillimus Indian Blackbird: p627

Turdus maximus Tibetan Blackbird: p628

That's probably why:
"...I'll arrive late tonight, Blackbird, bye bye.."
as sung by the immortal Ella.
MJB

Paul Clapham · Jan 22, 2015

James Lowther said:
i don't think the Turdus mandarinus split is captured fully?

Yeah... I should have called the H&M4 version "Turdus merula et al." instead. But the document I posted just maps H&M3 species to H&M4 taxa, which may be species groups or subspecific forms. The other half of the question is mapping H&M4 species to H&M3 taxa (if such a mapping exists) -- I will see about posting that mapping in a few days.

Paul Clapham · Jan 26, 2015

Paul Clapham said:
The other half of the question is mapping H&M4 species to H&M3 taxa (if such a mapping exists) -- I will see about posting that mapping in a few days.

I've just posted that document:

http://members.shaw.ca/Claphams/Birds/HandM4to3.html

There are several dozen new species in H&M4, so they don't map to anything in H&M3. There are also a few cases where a species in H&M4 doesn't map cleanly to something which could be called a "taxon" in H&M3, so those species don't appear to map to anything in H&M3 either.

Example: Puffinus lherminieri (Audubon's Shearwater) consists of subspecies lherminieri, loyemilleri, baroli, and boydi in H&M4. The first two of them are part of Puffinus lherminieri in H&M3, and the last two are part of Puffinus assimilis.

James Lowther · Jan 26, 2015

thanks Paul,
is there a list of H&M4 families anywhere?
James

Richard Klim · Jan 26, 2015

H&M4 families

James Lowther said:
is there a list of H&M4 families anywhere?

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