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Bresser Everest (ED) 8x42 (1 Viewer)
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brocknroller
porromaniac
Somehow I missed the earlier comment about my stinky feet. How did you guys know? Did Stet tell you?
Brock,
Thank you for bestowing such an hour. King of the Inexpensive Unit it is. Just don't use that phrase when you speak to my intended. She might mistake your meaning.
Glad I was able to find another diamond in the rough. I think it is my calling.
The honor isn't just for an "hour," that's a lifetime guaranteed diploma.
Well, as long as you didn't give your "intended" a "diamond in the buff" (cubic zirconia), I don't think she will mind you pinching pennies elsewhere.
Since your calling is to find the best products at the best prices, usually from China, you should apply for a job as a purchaser with Walmart. Longer birding season in Arkansas, but you will have to watch out for falling birds.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/blackbirds-fall-dead-from-the-sky-in-arkansas-again-162602
Brock
Exactly. You could get one of those T-shirts that say "Walmart (On the front) and on the back Your source for all that cheap plastic Shxhsbhxt"
It has absolutely nothing to do with being "anti-Chinese". I'm quite impressed the Chinese have improved their quality year after year. What I find interesting is the excitement on BF every time a "new" model arrives on scene...right up to the point we see the same (or nearly identical) model show up with another brand's label. In other words, some of the "designs" being touted on BF appear to be neither original or the work of a committed optics company. Most appear to be rebranded, off-the shelf, customized stock.
The real question is what happens to all the distributors when the Chinese figure out how to sell directly to the consumer.
PS
The Bresser appears to be Chinese-made, not German.
FrankD
Well-known member
John,
My apologies if I mistook your intentions. I understand where you are coming from. The Bresser is very likely just another flavor of a model originally introduced to us in the form of the Alpen Wings ED and Celestron Granite. My excitement stems from the fact that this design can now be had for as little as $215.
...and my earlier comment about German-origins was said more "tongue in cheek".
My apologies if I mistook your intentions. I understand where you are coming from. The Bresser is very likely just another flavor of a model originally introduced to us in the form of the Alpen Wings ED and Celestron Granite. My excitement stems from the fact that this design can now be had for as little as $215.
...and my earlier comment about German-origins was said more "tongue in cheek".
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"The Bresser appears to be Chinese-made, not German."
What makes you think they are Chinese besides price? They look German made to me. Like the High-End Minox HG's that are made in Germany.
What makes you think they are Chinese besides price? They look German made to me. Like the High-End Minox HG's that are made in Germany.
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james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
Frank, your 'House Sparrow' pics are of a female House Finch.....
Isn't it interesting how words can have one meaning in America-Land, and another back in Blighty. |=)|
Oops, what a bummer!
FrankD
Well-known member
You are correct. Brain fart on my end. I have both so often at my feeders.
Didn't they blame that on Hydraulic Fracking in the area and the resultant earthquakes?
http://planetsave.com/2011/01/07/mass-bird-deaths-fish-deaths-caused-hydraulic-fracking-earthquakes/
Look for this to come to Central Pennsylvania! :eek!:
Bob
FrankD
Well-known member
5.5 inches in length Steve. As I mentioned in the original post CA control inside the sweetspot is good but moderate outside of it.
brocknroller
porromaniac
lilcrazy2
Well-known member
Although I have been away from the forum for awhile, it is gratifying to see that many things never change.
Frank
You are right in that these seems to mirror the size and specs of the Alpen Wings ED's and Celestron Granites that I had. Upon first glance at the pic Vanguard Endeavor ED ran thru my mind before Wings and Granite even though the Endeavor is a little longer and has a narrower FOV.
From your review, they seem optically and mechanically similar to the Wings/ Granites but at a much cheaper price point. I had the 8x42 Wings ED and both the Wings and Granite 10x42's. The 10x42's were not near as good as the 8x42, but I got rid of them all since they were no better than a good sample of a Legend Ultra HD, which was a lot cheaper then.
Once the activity of "That which must not be named" started last fall, I pretty much gave up my optical analysis hobby (althought I bought 3 or 4 new pairs), and started putting them to some serious and prolonged use.
You must be in a good mood. Your on a roll today.
I guarantee you the Dresser's are way better than the Granites. I just compared the two directly. They are NOT similar optically. The Dresser's are comparable in sweet spot size and edge sharpness to my Swaroski Habicht's 8x30. The Habicht's are a little sharper on axis but not much and the Habicht's will smoke any alpha roof I have seen. Ask Steve.Although I have been away from the forum for awhile, it is gratifying to see that many things never change.
Frank
You are right in that these seems to mirror the size and specs of the Alpen Wings ED's and Celestron Granites that I had. Upon first glance at the pic Vanguard Endeavor ED ran thru my mind before Wings and Granite even though the Endeavor is a little longer and has a narrower FOV.
From your review, they seem optically and mechanically similar to the Wings/ Granites but at a much cheaper price point. I had the 8x42 Wings ED and both the Wings and Granite 10x42's. The 10x42's were not near as good as the 8x42, but I got rid of them all since they were no better than a good sample of a Legend Ultra HD, which was a lot cheaper then.
Once the activity of "That which must not be named" started last fall, I pretty much gave up my optical analysis hobby (althought I bought 3 or 4 new pairs), and started putting them to some serious and prolonged use.
Giorgio
Porro bins are a bit like war, they are made by yo
Yes and no.
In their sweet spot yes, maybe, thanks to the 3D effect and indeed very sharp image. This has to be clearly verified, the Swarovision is as good as the Habicht, or perhaps 95-99% the same.
Regarding edge sharpness, the Habicht is destroyed by almost all alpha roofs.
If you take the Edg, their edges are sharp to more than 95%.
In this skill, the Habicht is good to about 70-75%, which is not that great.
You know that i'm a porro fan Dennis, but in some areas, roofs are so much improved nowadays that they can beat porros with certain features.
It makes me think that the Conquest HDs (here they are at the same price than the Habichts) are underrated in terms of alpha view. The 8x42 is superb, the difference with the FL is so small...
bh46118
Well-known member
ThruNite, a high end Chinese flashlight company did just that this last winter. Without any notice, they started selling lights direct from China at a much lower price than their dealers were advertising them at.
