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O.hispanica or pleschanka? (1 Viewer)
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KenM
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The upperparts appear to be of a greyish persuasion? I don't know how, or if it's possible with any certainty, to separate the two forms regarding females of this taxa? Historically as far as Slovakia is concerned, which form is the more regular? Either way, a very good late record solium.
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lou salomon
the birdonist
hi solium,
very good record of a very difficult species pair, when not in breeding plumage. separating eastern black-eared from pied is difficult even in spring females as some pieds are paler and warmer coloured than the typical cold dark brown ones. this seems to be a 1st winter bird and i think the strong sunlight emphasizes warmer yellow tones, so i slightly adjusted colours. even though it doesn't have the darker breast of pied, to me upperparts (mantle) is grey enough and feathers from crown to lower back seem to show dark centers giving it a slightly scaled appearance which is what you have to look for in female (1st) winter pied. very long pp of around 100% doesn't differ much from EBEW which on average shows a very slightly shorter one.
very good record of a very difficult species pair, when not in breeding plumage. separating eastern black-eared from pied is difficult even in spring females as some pieds are paler and warmer coloured than the typical cold dark brown ones. this seems to be a 1st winter bird and i think the strong sunlight emphasizes warmer yellow tones, so i slightly adjusted colours. even though it doesn't have the darker breast of pied, to me upperparts (mantle) is grey enough and feathers from crown to lower back seem to show dark centers giving it a slightly scaled appearance which is what you have to look for in female (1st) winter pied. very long pp of around 100% doesn't differ much from EBEW which on average shows a very slightly shorter one.
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Nutcracker
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From a UK statistical perspective, O. pleschanka is much the more likely of the two this late in the year.
From what I have observed in Coastal Bulgaria where both species breed it is very hard to separate the two in this plumage, because they show a lot variation. Though if we have to compare to the ideal plumage of both species at this time of the year it better fits Pied Wheatear! They also stay later through the year, which statistically increases the chance for this individual to be Pied.
Valéry Schollaert
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Immediate reaction on the thumbnails was Pied W. Still believe it is one. Well done.
Dimitris
Birdwatcher in Oz
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