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Old Sunday 25th April 2004, 12:36   #26
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An excellent initiative, Jane, and very useful. Thanks for all the effort you are putting into it! I'm sure I will use it when needed.

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Ill second that- really great! Many thanks to you!
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Can I have this made sticky please mods so I can find it quickly whle I'm still working on it :)
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Old Sunday 25th April 2004, 19:46   #29
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Hope I've pushed the right buttons.
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Well done ,Jane,very hard work.
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Old Monday 26th April 2004, 14:13   #31
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1/4 of the way - actually a bit further since a lot of the more recent threads are already included. I have discovered that farmyard ducks and geese are much the most likely birds to get photographed and sent in.... that hummers are seldom identified and that CJW doesn't bother identifying gulls, he just posts pics of them in here :)
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Old Wednesday 28th April 2004, 11:10   #32
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I appear to be past half way :)
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Old Saturday 1st May 2004, 21:31   #33
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Jane,
Ta, you're not hoping to put the Collins book to shame by any chance ? This is a selfless effort on your part. I would never have the dedication for such an undertaking !
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An amazing thread, well done Jane some really useful threads in there!

Btw just to let you know - the links to the "Saker" and "Grey Wagtail" threads both either don't work or don't exist!
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Thanks.. ill sort them out next edit - its so easy to get url blind!
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Old Monday 3rd May 2004, 14:31   #36
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I've finished well at least the Q&A threads and Seawatching.. I guess I should so Birds of Prey too since I haven't found that Honey Buzz thread yet!!!

Still de-bugging, so if you find any mistakes, think different groupings would be good say so. I have taken some liberties with systematic order since my guess is that people who will recognise that I've lumped birds on common appearance or names will have less need for the index!
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Old Monday 3rd May 2004, 15:43   #37
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Well done,Jane;for the Honey Buzz thread,try looking under Common Buzz!
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Old Monday 3rd May 2004, 16:43   #38
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Congratulations, Jane, and enormous thanks. That's fantastic work.

You do realise, don't you, that you've got youself an unpaid job for life!
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Brilliant Jane. The Birdforum equivalent of a CBE should be on its way to you.
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Found the bunney - it will be in the next update!
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Old Wednesday 5th May 2004, 03:27   #41
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An absolutely great job you are doing Jane...
Here's a few comments and threads that seem to be missing:

Missing: Imm. Roadside Hawk from Brazil:
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=6948
A long way down on the same thread there's also a Hook-billed Kite, though no real argument why.
**Added later. Just looked at what someone id'ed as a Hook-billed Kite. It isn't!!! It also shows Roadside Hawk, but this time two adults (right pic. perhaps an imm.). I'll place a thread there.


Missing: Pale-vented Pigeon (a Neotropical species):
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=16000

You've placed "Blue and Yellow Tanager" under Vireos by mistake... It is also still present in the un-id'ed list.

"Great Egret/thread] Ibis and Limpkin" links to a thread about Great White Egret with a short note on id'ing it from Great White Heron. Nothing about Limpkins or Ibises.

Similar thing can be said about "Martial Eagle[/b] vultures [thread=12882]Ruppell's Vulture". Presumeably the Vulture link "disappeared" into the Eagle link. It leads to the Martial Eagle discussion.

The "Unidentified Nightjar" is placed both among id'ed and un-id'ed.

Regarding groupings: Only one that bugs me a bit is that Azara's Spinetail is placed in "New World Warblers and similar". At least it should be placed in a sub-group. It took me quite a while to find it, as it doesn't look anything like a New World Warbler, and the ovenbirds (the family that includes spinetails) are un-related to them.

Finally, perhaps somewhat inappropriate for your list as the exact species of Woodcreeper on the photo's isn't identified (and isn't possible to id for sure). But, if people would just note the things listed, they would be able to id (almost) every single species in this rather hard Neotropical family without to many problems; no matter if seen in Peru, Venezuela, Costa Rica or elsewhere.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=16106

If choosing to include this last thread, it would be logical to place it together with Azara's Spinetail. Ovenbirds and Woodcreepers look rather similar, the two families are found in roughly the same countries, and they are closely related.

Anyways, what a pleasure it is that someone is actually willing to spend the amount of time on making a id-list. THANK YOU!

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Old Wednesday 5th May 2004, 07:19   #42
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Rasmus - thanks... I was feeling guilty about the spinetail - but didn't really know where to put it and I'm trying to avoid having one link main branches... if that makes sense.

I wanted to put gnatcatchers in with old world warblers but though that people would never find them there!

For now I'm going to leave the tanagers and vieros together there are so few of either.

The Egret was a missing bracket - I've got code blind recently! The eagle was the wrong end command!

Any more suggestions for improvment welcome! I have the links saved on a mind map so it actually really easy to reorganise!
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Old Friday 7th May 2004, 13:44   #43
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Jane, you've spelt "martins" with two Ns in the sub-title "Swallows and Martins"
Sorry but I thought you might want to know

good job though.....now i've just got to find the time to digest all the Pipit threads!
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Cheers... will be corrected on the next update!
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What a brilliant idea , like Fifebirder says it's definitely Lady Jane from now on.
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Wow Jane! The list just keep on growing!

Anyways, two minor corrections:
1) You've placed the thread on Woodcreeper under "near-passerines". The familiy of Woodcreepers (Dendrocolaptidae) ARE passerines, most closely related to Ovenbirds (Furnariidae). Spinetails (incl. Azara's featured on the id-list) belongs to the family called Ovenbirds, so you don't have to write "Ovenbirds and Spinetails". "Ovenbirds" would cover. It would be adviceable to place the Woodcreepers together with the Ovenbirds. I.e. New World Warblers, Ovenbirds & Woodcreepers.
2) The Blue-and-Yellow Tanager is placed under Vireos. Yes, the main group is "Tanagers & Virieos", but in the sub-groups, you've placed it under "Vireos" by mistake, not under "Tanagers".

Also been looking at the "Kingbird sp." but I keep on changing my mind on the id! I'll (...probably...) look into it later.

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Old Thursday 20th May 2004, 16:29   #47
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Done!

It never ends of course!
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Jane,

One small remark on this excellent thread: when you click on "Western Sandpiper" you arrive somewhere but not on a Western Sandpiper. Maybe you could investigate this?

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Thanks.. there are bound to be a few of those.... I got thread blind once or twice.... the real challenge will of course be finding it again!
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