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New bin, EL10x50SV (1 Viewer)
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We have a fully redistributive system, also known as "socialism" in the US of A!
I know, that's why I asked.
Let us know especially how the 10x50 SV's compare to the 8x32 SV's. I don't have a 10x maybe that would be a good pair. I just don't know about 35 oz. though.We have a fully redistributive system, also known as "socialism" in the US of A!
Theo98
Eurasian Goldfinch
You've got to try them to really see how well balanced and stable they are. It's been stated by users (including me) that they defy their weight with a great balance that assist in holding a 10X steadier than lighter alternatives!
My SLC 10x42's, although very comfortable to hold, tend to show my heartbeat and hand shakiness. However my EL 10x50 SV's, at 8oz heavier, smooth those sharp movements out, almost as if they had IS built in! I seem to be able to glass just as long before taking a break (for the arms...eyes still good to go)!
Of course, I took Brock's' suggestion and I "eats me spinach"! :eat:
Ted
Yeah! Keep on driving those V8s!
I wouldn't pat myself on the back so hard if i were a Norwegian......the State of Texas produdes more crude oil daily than your whole country.
35 oz is not at all a problem for me, even my wife could handle the SV50 without problems, and she said it was easier to hold steady than the SV32. These days, I rarely use the 32 around the house because I like the 50 better.
It's well balanced, which covers up the weight a bit. It feels lighter than it is.
So, maybe one more big SV? I think we've reached the point where we can call it officially "SV50 summer"o
Swarovski needs to ramp up production of the EL10x50 because of us on BFB
B.t.w. I ordered mine without Rolling balls and Absam ring, and they gave me a discount for the downgrade3
Theo98
Eurasian Goldfinch
I ordered mine without Rolling balls and Absam ring, and they gave me a discount for the downgrade3
Gijs,
Wish I knew that before ordering mine...could have saved a bunch of $$$ by switching to Gei...wait, that's an American joke, right?!
Ted
brocknroller
porromaniac
I guess you haven't read about America's new energy independence? We are now the #1 oil, natural gas liquids & natural gas producer in the world.
Front_Page/Congress_to_pass_bill_based_on_energy_abundance.html (wait 10 seconds and my article will appear)
We don't need your oil, Hägar/Annika. We could, however, use your energy jobs. Despite the big oil and gas boon in the U.S. (and the recent "oil bust" in prices as a result), fracking is so efficient that we are not like Norway where every Sven, Olaf, and Harry is employed directly or indirectly in the energy industry. We also don't have your low unemployment rate of 3.2%.
Hence, why there is not an "alpha in every pot" in the US, let alone two.
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HighNorth
Well-known member
We do benefit from high oil prices though, due to American (and increasingly Chinese) consumption.
brocknroller
porromaniac
We do benefit from high oil prices though, due to American (and increasingly Chinese) consumption.
Don't blame me, I only take out my gas guzzling 707 hp Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat on the weekends.
Hellcat
It looks more like my '68 Dodge Charger than the current Charger does.
If I hit the MegaMillions I'd buy a Dodge Challenger and a Prius to make up for my big carbon footprint on Sundays, and so Norway doesn't benefit and you don't get to buy yet another alpha!
Brock
HighNorth
Well-known member
B.t.w. I ordered mine without Rolling balls and Absam ring, and they gave me a discount for the downgrade3
I thought they called that one the SLC?
Theo98
Eurasian Goldfinch
Get Er Done!
For that price Broc, you could buy "20 BF members" full retail priced 0 to Infinity in .1 seconds Swaro EL 10x50 SV's....VerrrrrrrRoooommmmmmmmmmmm! 3
However, then only "1" would be truly Rolling! :t:
Ted
For that price Broc, you could buy "20 BF members" full retail priced 0 to Infinity in .1 seconds Swaro EL 10x50 SV's....VerrrrrrrRoooommmmmmmmmmmm! 3
However, then only "1" would be truly Rolling! :t:
Ted
I thought they called that one the SLC?
Crap. In that case, I think I've been ripped off|=\| I KNEW it.
When I asked the salesman about the flat field, he said "well, do you see any mountains around here"
HighNorth
Well-known member
Hi!
I got the Swarovski EL SV 10x50 that I ordered last Friday, and I have had good use of it over the weekend.
I have to say that it is a magnificent binocular, but unfortunately, not for me personally...
I did not get along with the ergonomics of the bin, especially the large tumb indents (that seem dimentioned for a Yeti!), and it wasn't as easy to hold and focus as my 8x42 SF. Optically, the SF also seemed a little bit brighter, and had a bit better CA correction to my eyes. AFOV seemed about equal. Glare restistance was about the same. Build quality is of course better on the Swaro....
Although I can see why many people like this bin (and rightly so), I just don't think it is enough of an improvement on my SF to justify the investment.
Basically, it's just a bigger, brighter version of my 8x32 SV EL with better glare resistance and a bit more shake...
This bin will be going back to the dealer for a refund.
HN
I got the Swarovski EL SV 10x50 that I ordered last Friday, and I have had good use of it over the weekend.
I have to say that it is a magnificent binocular, but unfortunately, not for me personally...
I did not get along with the ergonomics of the bin, especially the large tumb indents (that seem dimentioned for a Yeti!), and it wasn't as easy to hold and focus as my 8x42 SF. Optically, the SF also seemed a little bit brighter, and had a bit better CA correction to my eyes. AFOV seemed about equal. Glare restistance was about the same. Build quality is of course better on the Swaro....
Although I can see why many people like this bin (and rightly so), I just don't think it is enough of an improvement on my SF to justify the investment.
Basically, it's just a bigger, brighter version of my 8x32 SV EL with better glare resistance and a bit more shake...
This bin will be going back to the dealer for a refund.
HN
Vespobuteo
Well-known member
with great powers, come big thumb indents, o
but I totally agree, those thumb indents is probably the strangest design feature on the swaros,
only the torturing sharp ridges on my FL binos is worse..just look at the photo..and you can feel the pain in your hands:
http://www.allbinos.com/upload2/61027_zeiss8x42_news.jpg
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with great powers, come big thumb indents, o
but I totally agree, those thumb indents is probably the strangest design feature on the swaros,
only the torturing sharp ridges on my FL binos is worse..just look at the photo..and you can feel the pain in your hands:
http://www.allbinos.com/upload2/61027_zeiss8x42_news.jpg
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I have a 7x42 Victory FL and I can tell you that those ridges are hardly noticeable when I use the binocular; but don't take my word for it, professionals use the FL on a daily basis.
Jerry Liguori who wrote HAWKS At A Distance on the "Identification of Migrant Raptors" stated in his book in at page 8 in the paragraph he wrote on "Optics for Hawk Watching" that he personally used a Zeiss Victory FL and had been using it since 2008.
Bob
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HN, IMHO, you can't compare the 8x42SF to the 10x50SV, 'cause the're both specialists in their own way. Only thing they have in common is the EP, which is about the same (5mm vs 5.25mm)
Was it intended to replace your SF? Or did you want to have it next to the SF and the other bins?
The thumb indents indeed are a bit big, but to be honest, it doesn't bother me. Only the focuser could be placed a bit more towards the objective side for my liking.
CA is a bit more pronounced compared to the little SV, which doesn't show any, at least I can't see it. Still good enough for me though|=)| The glare in the 32 though....... is sometimes annoying. Definitely below par for such an expensive piece.
Could be that the bigger aperture makes it more difficult to suppress CA, I also found out the ATX95 had more CA than the ATX85, which made me decide to buy the latter one.
I still like the SV's, although they both have their quirks. It's a nice couple, the 8x32 and 10x50.
Good thing that you've tried it yourself, it's the only way to find out if it is for you:t:
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HighNorth
Well-known member
Binoculars are very personal things, and nobody has a right to argue with your preference. Not even a world famous hawk watcher!
HN
HighNorth
Well-known member
I agree with everything you say! It was just that the ergonomics of the 10x50 EL SV didn't appeal to me (I get along better with smaller Swarovski bins, which have much smaller thumb indents).
I wanted the 10x50 to complement my 8x32 EL SV and 8x42 SF for birding, and also double as an astronomy binocular, but I think the weight and ergonomics of the thing would make me leave it at home most of the time.
HN
Binoculars are very personal things, and nobody has a right to argue with your preference. Not even a world famous hawk watcher!
HN
HN
I am sure that Vespobuteo can defend himself. And you will note that it was I who made the argument with him and I used a famous ornithologist as an example that the binocular he thinks is painful to use is by no means painful to use under even long and arduous use in all kinds of weather.
If his hands are so tender that he can't bear the feel of the ridges on a Zeiss Victory FL, or for that matter the ridges on the classic Leica Trinovid BAs and BNs, I feel sorry for him because he is missing great viewing experiences.:t:
Bob
