Peter Kovalik
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Richard Klim
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This may be of interest : www.xeno-canto.org/collection/spotlight/82; and more specifically this preprint: www.xeno-canto.org/docs/lopez-lanus-2015.pdf .
Richard Klim
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Iberá Seedeater
I'd been pleased to see seven species of Sporophila at the Esteros del Iberá, but I obviously missed at least one...
Snapdragyn
Well-known member
Wait, I thought this was a Seedeater, not an Antpitta?
Richard Klim
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Iberá Seedeater
So, here we go again... :smoke:
- Iberá Seedeater: Sporophila digiacomoi López-Lanús vs Sporophila iberaensis Di Giacomo & Kopuchian
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Tom Schulenberg
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The taxon described by López-Lánus was named in honor of two brothers (Adrián and Alejandro Di Giacomo). Therefore, isn't the epithet digiacomoorum (!), not digiacomoi?
Richard Klim
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Btw, is it considered more prestigious for an ornithologist to have described a new species, or to have a new species named in his/her honour...?
thomasdonegan
Former amateur ornithologist
Some people don't think so.
Dubois, A. 2007. Genitives of species and subspecies nomina derived from personal names should not be emended. Zootaxa 1550:49–68. PDF
thomasdonegan
Former amateur ornithologist
"Recibido: marzo 2016 / Aceptado: marzo 2016 / Pubicado: marzo 2016"
"Pubicado" is actually a really funny typo for anyone who knows Spanish, but joking aside, it seems to have been published quite swiftly.
thomasdonegan
Former amateur ornithologist
This one seems to have a Zoobank entry (but the other one does not): http://zoobank.org/References/5DC578A4-D721-400B-BA31-C19F93530028
Melanie
Well-known member
Could it be a hybrid like Sporophila zelichi?
Richard Klim
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Iberá Seedeater
(NO vote recommended.)
AOU-SACC Proposal #715 (Claramunt & Areta, Mar 2016): Recognize Sporophila digiacomoi.
(NO vote recommended.)
- López-Lanús (in press). Una nueva especie de capuchino (Emberizidae: Sporophila) de los pastizales anegados del Iberá, Corrientes, Argentina. A new species of seedeater (Emberizidae: Sporophila) from the Iberá waterlogged grasslands, Corrientes, Argentina. pp 473–489 in López-Lanús. Guía Audiornis de las aves de Argentina, fotos y sonidos; identificación por características contrapuestas y marcas sobre imágenes. 1st ed. Audiornis Producciones, Buenos Aires.
- Di Giacomo & Kopuchian 2016. Una nueva especie de capuchino (Sporophila: Thraupidae) de los Esteros del Iberá, Corrientes, Argentina. Nuestras Aves 61: 3–5.
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Mysticete
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I have been hearing quite a bit of discussion amongst biologists and paleontologists about trying to move more journals to a "pre-print model", as a solution to the problem of increasing amounts of time to get things from submitted to published. This model is widely used in other sciences such as physics IIRC, and I wonder what expanding that that model might do long run to current ideas about date of description, etc.
Richard Klim
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Iberá Seedeater
HBW Alive...
HBW Alive...
mb1848
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Mysticete said: "I have been hearing quite a bit of discussion amongst biologists and paleontologists about trying to move more journals to a "pre-print model", as a solution to the problem of increasing amounts of time to get things from submitted to published. This model is widely used in other sciences such as physics IIRC, and I wonder what expanding that that model might do long run to current ideas about date of description, etc."; which reminded me of Mr. Sangster's comment on the Omani Owl paper. "This is a preprint / prepublication version of a manuscript. BioRxiv is intended to facilitate communication among scientists about scientific findings before formal publication in a peer-reviewed journal. It may take a year before a paper is peer-reviewed, revised and published. Peer-review is usually performed by only 2-3 peers (who may overlook problems or miss opportunities for improvement). Prepublication has the advantages that it speeds up the release of new findings to the scientific community (and thus improves progress), and by seeking feedback from that community, it may improve the quality of the final publication. http://amapress.gen.cam.ac.uk/?p=1316 .
When the paper is formally published elsewhere, a link will appear on BioRxiv directing you to that publication. It is unlikely you'll find any new descriptions of zoological taxa on BioRxiv because this is not a journal, and has no ISSN."
When the paper is formally published elsewhere, a link will appear on BioRxiv directing you to that publication. It is unlikely you'll find any new descriptions of zoological taxa on BioRxiv because this is not a journal, and has no ISSN."
Peter Kovalik
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Sporophila iberaensis
IOC Updates Diary Apr 8
Post proposed new species Ibera Seedeater on Updates/PS
IOC Updates Diary Apr 8
Post proposed new species Ibera Seedeater on Updates/PS
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l_raty
laurent raty
Somewhat intriguingly, isbn.org.ar seems to treat the printed work as having been published in Dec 2015:
I've no idea what this proves, though. (Obviously, as ISBN numbers are printed in books nowadays, the numbers are obtained by publishers ahead of print. Note that the number of pages in the book reported above (550) departs from what is declared in the pdf separate (522). But still, I did not expect to find a book that is effectively unpublished in an online ISBN database...)
...but obtainable by "pedido especial" (special order) -- thus presumably not through standard booksellers?
I've no idea what this proves, though. (Obviously, as ISBN numbers are printed in books nowadays, the numbers are obtained by publishers ahead of print. Note that the number of pages in the book reported above (550) departs from what is declared in the pdf separate (522). But still, I did not expect to find a book that is effectively unpublished in an online ISBN database...)
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