If you had done that ahead of time, yes the resolution of the split could be automatic.
Niels
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The eBird/Clements Checklist v2017 (1 Viewer)
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If you had done that ahead of time, yes the resolution of the split could be automatic.
Niels
Steve Lister
Senior Birder, ex County Recorder, Garden Moths.
Clements/Cornell/eBird is currently the one with the lowest overall number of species.
I keep a Clements worldlist from when I was an ABA member and had to use Clements as the reference list. I still prefer it to be honest but using IOC gives me about 70 extra species, quite a lot when my world list is still a bit below 5000. Using Birdlife/HBW I would probably have passed 5000 by now.
Steve
Andy Adcock
Worst person on Birdforum
Cheers, Steve,
I started my list using the Mick Wells hardcover book years ago, don't know why, perhaps I was less internet savvy back then and there were fewer online lists available.
No idea why I chose the IOC, I think that it was probably just becoming known and I knew more people were using it so I did too.
Got to admire those who manage to keep across all the various lists, I couldn't do it!
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Paul Clapham
Well-known member
But at the present time there are a number of cases where that goal has not been met yet. For example:
If you were in the Mentawai Islands (near Sumatra) and you saw a drongo, then Clements would call that Dicrurus hottentottus viridinitens and you would have seen Hair-crested Drongo Dicrurus hottentottus. However IOC would call that Dicrurus sumatranus viridinitens and you would have seen Sumatran Drongo Dicrurus sumatranus.
That's just one case which I just ran into (not that I was in the Mentawai Islands!) and I'm sure there are many more. And it's not unknown for the taxonomy managers to move subspecies from one species to another, which can also mess you up. Although eBird can often help with that because it has enough information in many cases to move your sighting to the new species.
The ebird groups have also defined a Sharpshinned Hawk Madrean group from western Mexico including Oaxaca. I do not believe I have field notes for a bird I saw in Monte Alban in January many years ago, so the only way to get forward is to ask: Does the northern/migratory populations of Sharpshinned reach this far down in Mexico? I assume yes, but does anyone know?
Niels
Niels
Jeff Hopkins
Just another...observer
According to Cornell, the boreal population migrates as far south as southern Central America.
