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Old Wednesday 8th November 2006, 22:21   #1
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National bird for England ?

Apparently the Scots are seriously considering having a national bird and at the moment the Golden Eagle is the favourite.

NEW Zealand has the kiwi, Antigua has the frigate bird and Belize has the keel-billed toucan - but Scotland has nothing.

A total of 90 countries around the world, and numerous states and provinces, have a national bird. Scotland is not one of them but that omission could soon be reversed thanks to a recent decision by MSPs.

Assuming this goes ahead will the idea catch on south of the border? If it does what bird should the English choose?
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Old Wednesday 8th November 2006, 22:30   #2
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Thought the Robin was voted in....?
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Old Wednesday 8th November 2006, 22:43   #3
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I was gonna say robin too.
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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 08:44   #4
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If my memory serves me this was done by The Times newspaper back in the '60s and as already been mentioned the Robin was voted England's national bird.

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Robin was voted England's national bird.

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I'd vote for that
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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 09:03   #6
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It is the Robin!

Scotland should have the Golden Eagle.

What about Wales? Red Kite or [Chough (Kernow claims the Chough)]
N.Ireland?
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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 12:20   #7
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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 15:04   #8
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Northern Irelands' bird

Northern Ireland is the summer home of the 55 year old manx shearwater, thats the oldest on record..that must surely be a contender
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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 16:02   #9
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The Robin for England? Bickering, two-timing, aggressive, big immigrant numbers every year. Yep, that sounds about right.

Maybe Scotland should adopt the Herring Gull. Greedy, gregarious, noisy, lives on carry-outs. Aye, that's us.

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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 16:22   #10
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If I were Scots I reckon I'd vote for Scottish Crossbill - a bird nobody else can lay claim to.

For us down in England I'd go along with robin . Guaranteed to cheer you up even on a miserable winters day.
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If I were Scots I reckon I'd vote for Scottish Crossbill - a bird nobody else can lay claim to.

For us down in England I'd go along with robin . Guaranteed to cheer you up even on a miserable winters day.
I thought the Robin was voted the BRITISH national bird when devolution was just a twinkle in Winnie Ewing's eye?

Red Grouse (Lagopus lagopus scoticus) wouldn't be a bad option... especially with its association with moorland and the uplands. It's certainly the most economically important. Ptarmigan not bad either but might disappear sooner than we think with global warming.... and THAT would be embarrassing

Capercaillie has a lovely gaelic name ('capull coille', meaning 'horse of the woods'.) and won't ever be established in the Britain and Ireland outside Scotland. (unlike the Golden Eagle which is going great guns in Donegal and I reckon within a decade will be reintroduced to Wales and England). If the Caper got it then the Scottish Assembly could vote gazillions of pounds to saving 'the national bird' in between their drinking / swinging sessions.

English national bird? You'd have to go with Robin wouldn't you?
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i think wales' definatly should be the red kite. Is that actually official?? its powy's council logo.
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What about the kestrel?

One of the most recognizable birds commonly seen in the english countryside,

The bird most commonly pointed out by fathers to their sons while driving
down the motorway?

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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 21:45   #14
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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 21:49   #15
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Discussion from a few years ago:

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....tland+national

If memory serves there was some sort of debate in Scotland about a national bird at the time, and something (I think probably Golden Eagle or Osprey) was chosen. Might be wrong though.

I still think I had it right with Eider, but I seemed to be in a minority of one on that.
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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 15:43   #16
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