Pakistan Bird IDs (1 Viewer)

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Himalaya

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• Feb 11, 2016

• #1

Please could someone confirm


female Variable Wheatear?

female Black Crowned Sparrow lark?

Tree Pipit?

Juvenile Sparrowhawk?

 

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Himalaya

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• Feb 11, 2016

• #2

not to forget this Warbler from Lahore taken in January

 

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Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Feb 11, 2016

• #3

The pipit, I'm thinking Olive-backed.

 

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KGS

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #4

#1 Black-crowned Sparrow-lark
#2 Wheatear, Pied?
#3 Tree Pipit. Back too strongly streaked for OBP
#4 Northern Goshawk
#5 Blue-capped Redstart

 

Andy Adcock

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #5

Gos is a juv making ID a bit easier.

Those Redstarts always fool me!!

Andy

 

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Grahame Walbridge

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #6

Location and date of wheatear?

Grahame

 

Jean FRANCOIS

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #7

2- Variable Wheatear (picata)

 

Bryon Wright

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #8

Hi, delicate mid-toe of the accipiter? #2, the warbler looks like a ficedula.

 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'

• Feb 12, 2016

• #9

Bryon Wright said:

#2, the warbler looks like a ficedula.

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I'm in the Blue-capped Redstart camp

 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Feb 12, 2016

• #10

KGS said:

#4 Northern Goshawk

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Looks too small and dainty-billed to me for Gos; obviously not Sparrowhawk with that teardrop streaking, but do any other smaller Asian Accipiter spp. have juvs with that?

 

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Himalaya

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #11

I agree myself!

Larry Sweetland said:

I'm in the Blue-capped Redstart camp

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Himalaya

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #12

This is the supposed to be the same bird as the Accipter in post 1 - this is a Goshawk unless I am wrong? It was in Gilgit in mid-November - most likely a passage migrant.

This appears to have much longer streaks than the accipter in post 1.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gilgit2/23674254966/in/dateposted/

Nutcracker said:

Looks too small and dainty-billed to me for Gos; obviously not Sparrowhawk with that teardrop streaking, but do any other smaller Asian Accipiter spp. have juvs with that?

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Himalaya

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #13

The location is Gaddani Beach, just west of Karachi from January - Pied is not supposed to occur here.

Grahame Walbridge said:

Location and date of wheatear?

Grahame

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Himalaya

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #14

As for the Pipit photographed in early January someone suggested Rosy on the basis of :-

1. Tree pipit never has olive-edges to tertials n secondaries. This bird clearly have it....

2. Note bold streaking below n dark lores

 

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KGS

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• Feb 12, 2016

• #15

Himalaya said:

As for the Pipit photographed in early January someone suggested Rosy on the basis of :-

1. Tree pipit never has olive-edges to tertials n secondaries. This bird clearly have it....

2. Note bold streaking below n dark lores

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I did seriously consider Rosy, e.g. due to seemingly greenish fringes to secondaries, but I thought the streaking with with rounder bold marks towards the breast and rather finer streaks down the flanks is better for Tree Pipit. Don't think dark lores is much of a problem for Tree. I agree Rosy maybe still is a possibility.

 

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Himalaya

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• Feb 14, 2016

• #16

Interesting - the markings do appear much closer to a Tree Pipit on the breast.

 

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Grahame Walbridge

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• Feb 14, 2016

• #17

Himalaya said:

Interesting - the markings do appear much closer to a Tree Pipit on the breast.

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I have spent quite a bit of time looking at this bird and have come to the conclusion it is most likely a particularly well marked Tree, probably haringtoni from the NW Himalayas. In addition to the pro-Tree features mentioned by KGS, the head pattern better fits Tree and it looks quite open-faced; in particular the ear coverts are not dark enough and there is a pale spot visible at the upper rear of the ear coverts. Further, the supercilium does not appear strong enough, particularly in front of eye. Bill colour and structure also favour Tree.

Compare these images of winter-plumaged Rosy from Thailand.

http://bangkokcitybirding.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/a-lesson-in-pipit-id.html

Sorry to be a pain, but when and where was the image taken?

 

Last edited: Feb 14, 2016

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Himalaya

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• Feb 14, 2016

• #18

Thanks to all those who helped....Tree Pipit is is...

the Wheatear is a Variable? - where it is seen only Variable is recorded there obviously other species are likely to turn up as Vagrant.