An ID pointer about Whooper bill-patterns, is that the yellow area points sharply forward into the black bill-tip, with an obtuse, extreme triangle. You may get much variation on this, but Bewick's generally don't show this sharp incursion, at an angle, into the black tip-area. It rounds out, and back, before the nostril. Whereas WS continues underneath, in a sharp point, ending near the bill tip. Yes, we all know this, and there are other ID pointers. But, it's worth bringing up again here. Also Whoopers prefer Orange Marmalade, whilst Bewick's swear by the three fruits recipe! If I were a Swan? I'd go for the original Portuguese Quince recipe! :cat: