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Old Tuesday 21st March 2017, 18:13   #26
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Old Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 03:53   #27
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As my title says. I originally started looking at the Nikon M5 8x42, but then I started reading about the M7 with its much wider FOV, was set on it, finding this forum, now looking at the Monarch HG! For a beginner who's looking at southern california birds like meadowlarks, sparrows, pipits, warblers, and goldfinches is the Monarch 7 good enough? I notice the light transmission is better with the M7 vs MHG, but the almost everything else on the HG is better: less CA, less distortion, Japan vs China made (I shoot Nikon full frame DSLRS and I can easily tell the difference between my Japan lenses vs China ones).

I'm a buy once, cry once kind of guy so I want one that will satisfy me for some time....

Also what about image stabilized binos? I like the VR feature on my Nikons...
Good glass is always preferable there is no such thing as overkill for a beginner.

everything has to do with budget and perceived value. For me I can never use lower end optics, as I am a bit too fastidious for anything short of perfection. Even at the flagship alpha level I am still complaining but if stuff doesn't bother you don't go looking for them. It is a can of worms you don't want to open unless, you enjoy being annoyed. sometimes even with deep pockets problems cannot be solved.
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Good glass is always preferable there is no such thing as overkill for a beginner.

everything has to do with budget and perceived value. For me I can never use lower end optics, as I am a bit too fastidious for anything short of perfection. Even at the flagship alpha level I am still complaining but if stuff doesn't bother you don't go looking for them. It is a can of worms you don't want to open unless, you enjoy being annoyed. sometimes even with deep pockets problems cannot be solved.
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Thanks for all the replies folks, I've just ordered a 8x42 MHG. My 7 year old also wants in some of the action so I ordered a M7 8X32 for him. It'll also serve when I want to travel light when going on a cruise etc...
Great advice, Joe...Looks like it has been already taken!

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See the new thread on image stabilisation if still interested...
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New to birding and of course looking at Binos, Are MHG 8X42 overkill?

There is no such a thing as overkill in binos. Binos are extremely complex machinery. Just like the human eye is very complex, for these that use binos for hours at a time everything counts in a binos interaction. Buy the best binos you can afford.
One can buy a debatable $500 to $1000 binos and write about it here for months. The Swaro 8x42 SLC for $1500 is not debatable and is a good start and end point.
If not possible Nikon Monarch 7 in 8x42 at $500 is good for many years of birding.
Have not tried the MHG yet but let us know how you like it 😀

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As my title says. I originally started looking at the Nikon M5 8x42, but then I started reading about the M7 with its much wider FOV, was set on it, finding this forum, now looking at the Monarch HG! For a beginner who's looking at southern california birds like meadowlarks, sparrows, pipits, warblers, and goldfinches is the Monarch 7 good enough? I notice the light transmission is better with the M7 vs MHG, but the almost everything else on the HG is better: less CA, less distortion, Japan vs China made (I shoot Nikon full frame DSLRS and I can easily tell the difference between my Japan lenses vs China ones).

I'm a buy once, cry once kind of guy so I want one that will satisfy me for some time....

Also what about image stabilized binos? I like the VR feature on my Nikons...
Hi! I think both Nikon bins will serve you well. My first bin was an 8x42 Nikon Monarch 7, and I still use it at times, even though I also own high-end Swarovski and Zeiss bins, as well as several Canon Image Stabilized (IS) binoculars.

Some plusses for the Nikon M7: not only does it have great optical quality for the price, but it is also extremely light and compact compared with most other 8x42 binoculars.

As for the HG, I haven't owned or tried it, but it looks like a step up from the Monarch 7 in almost every way (including price). I think both would serve you well for many years.

If you are into IS binoculars, I can heartily recommend the Canon 10x42L IS WP (which I own). It's easily the cream of the crop of IS binoculars available to civilians today.

However, as always, try before you buy to ensure that the binocular fits you the best.

Cheers, from HN, who graduated from a Nikon Monarch M7 to a Swarovski SV, and then to Zeiss Victory SF and Canon IS binoculars in little more than three years!
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Ah, I see now that the original poster already made their choice, and my previous post is now somewhat useless. Still, let it still be a warning that binoculars are addictive, and can easily lead to a serious case of gear-craziness!
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