I won, on that well known auction site a 8x30 jenoptem, from the photo in good shape, and described in glowing terms. It was sent by tracked recorded delivery. I opened the very well packaged item, then the Zeiss case, to find a broken Zenith 8x30. After numerous emails, the seller still insisted that they sent Zeiss binoculars. The package did not seem to have been tampered with so I can only draw one conclusion. The clever bit of this scam is that by sending it recorded, they can prove I received and signed for the package, so they can put anything inside it and then just insist it contained what you bought and infer you have switched it. I guess I'm not the first to be caught like this, but I will carefully check the feedback as a seller of anyone I buy from in future. This person had 100% positive feedback, but when I checked that was only as a buyer of few items.
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A word of warning (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Bencw
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. There are many so-called Zeiss binoculars on a well-known auction site that are clearly not Zeiss from the photos although they are marked Zeiss.
Some Japanese probably fakes, some may be modern perhaps Chinese where you can have whatever you want printed on the binocular even if it is completely fanciful.
The situation you describe seems to be fraud.
The sellers of the Zeiss fakes could claim perhaps honestly that they did not know that they are not in fact Zeiss binoculars.
With actual Zeiss binoculars some could be East some could be West.
There was also a trademark dispute and in the USA different names were used.
Some Japanese probably fakes, some may be modern perhaps Chinese where you can have whatever you want printed on the binocular even if it is completely fanciful.
The situation you describe seems to be fraud.
The sellers of the Zeiss fakes could claim perhaps honestly that they did not know that they are not in fact Zeiss binoculars.
With actual Zeiss binoculars some could be East some could be West.
There was also a trademark dispute and in the USA different names were used.
NDhunter
Experienced observer
This is not good, but I suppose you have pictures of the item that you
thought you had purchased. Document all of this, it should include the
words Zeiss, etc.
I hope you get your money back.
Jerry
