Longhorn beetles for ID please (1 Viewer)

Dave Smith

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• Oct 10, 2005

• #1

These were taken in August in Bavaria. I have managed to ID some of my pictures but not these two fellows.

Many thanks for any suggestions.

Dave

 

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paul mabbott

Urban space man

• Oct 11, 2005

• #2

longhorns

Hello Dave, sorry - nothing obviously comes to mind. Have you looked on the Czech site http://www.uochb.cas.cz/~natur/cerambyx/cerambyx.htm - tedious to wade through but ...
Paul

Dave Smith said:

These were taken in August in Bavaria. I have managed to ID some of my pictures but not these two fellows.

Many thanks for any suggestions.

Dave

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Dave Smith

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• Oct 11, 2005

• #3

Hi Paul

Yes I have seen that website thankyou. I guess I had better have another trawl through it.

Dave

 

Dave Smith

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• Oct 11, 2005

• #4

I have had another look through the Czech website and have found some possibilities.

Here is my picture of the first one again together with a picture of Ergates faber. The antenae don't seem quite long enough but otherwise it seems close.

Any opinions?

 

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Dave Smith

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• Oct 11, 2005

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For the coloured beetle there are two "fairly" close.
First picture mine, then Phymatodes testaceus and then Pronocesa angusta.

Any opinions?

Many thanks.

Dave

 

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paul mabbott

Urban space man

• Oct 11, 2005

• #6

Mmmm

I think not - the pronota are different widths, there is no scutellar mark on yours and the 'texture' doesn't look quite right ....
There may be gender and individual variations in these species? Paul

Dave Smith said:

I have had another look through the Czech website and have found some possibilities.

Here is my picture of the first one again together with a picture of Ergates faber. The antenae don't seem quite long enough but otherwise it seems close.

Any opinions?

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paul mabbott

Urban space man

• Oct 11, 2005

• #7

Again

Again, no - the prontal (thorax) width is far too narrow on yours. I suspect that for central European longhorns you would need to refer to a text key ... unless you can find a local expert. There are far too many for a casual British viewer to work out! Fascinating beasts though.
Good luck, Paul

Dave Smith said:

For the coloured beetle there are two "fairly" close.
First picture mine, then Phymatodes testaceus and then Pronocesa angusta.

Any opinions?

Many thanks.

Dave

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Dave Smith

Well-known member

• Oct 11, 2005

• #8

Oh well, thanks for your help anyway. By chance I will be near the Natural History Museum this weekend. I might try in there.

Dave