Jose605
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Birds of Petra, Jordan (1 Viewer)
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@Kingrichard
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I heard some one saying that Petra has the largest amount of birds of prey in the world today.
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Can you reply please and I live in the UK.
My email is [email protected]
Can you reply please and I live in the UK.
Andy Adcock
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Not sure Long-legged can be ruled out can it?
Valéry Schollaert
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I think it has a jizz of LLB.
kuzeycem
Medicinal Birding
No, too slim and large-headed. Coloration also not good.
lou salomon
the birdonist
is a ssp. cirtensis so far off, Tom? Not sure how far north they get, though.
LLB and especially cirtensis is a mess, both on systematics and on distribution, few breeding records in Lybia, nothing really known about cirtensis in Egypt but Arabian peninsula possibly cirtensis.
It does not look Buteo r. rufinus to me (nothing eagle like here) but if cirtensis present in Jordan, than impossible to tell from B.b.vulpinus on this picture
It does not look Buteo r. rufinus to me (nothing eagle like here) but if cirtensis present in Jordan, than impossible to tell from B.b.vulpinus on this picture
Deviating in what way? Looks pretty normal to me.
Maybe it is just me, but I do not remember them having such a huge grey area on the wings.
Niels
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jogresh
Bimble and patch
Cirtensis crossed my mind. I think Collins mapped them as far as Sinai? 🤷♂️
I'd be surprised if there's a vulpinus in Petra at this time of year. 🤔🤷♂️
Date of observation was November 2017
jogresh
Bimble and patch
Cheers 👍
lou salomon
the birdonist
I also overlooked the date...I have seen cirtensis in the rocky mountins west of Hurghada, Egypt in Juli, so I assume they are breeding over there.
Andy Adcock
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How are you separating cirtensis from rufinus, didn't think it at all easy?
Structure cannot be that obviously different given that cirtensis is now a race of B. buteo rather than B. rufinus IIRC?
lou salomon
the birdonist
Well, it looked like a LLB colourwise (reddish tail with pale base, pale head etc) but structurally was more compact - that's about what I think cirtensis should look like. I excluded vulpinus on its apparent territorial behaviour plus season. Nominate LLB should not be breeding there, neither should nominate Common Buzzard do so.
