Help with a pipit!! (1 Viewer)

Simonph

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• Jan 28, 2006

• #1

Cant figure this one out...any help much appreciated! Taken today in Dubai, UAE. Tawny's, Water and Red-throated pipits around, but this guy didnt seem like any of them...Thanks.

 

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London Birder

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• Jan 28, 2006

• #2

have to say it looks like a Water to me ... how did it differ from Water Pipits present?

 

Simonph

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• Jan 28, 2006

• #3

London Birder said:

have to say it looks like a Water to me ... how did it differ from Water Pipits present?

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Seemed to have much heavier streaking than the water pipits im used to seeing here - have attached one to show what I mean...perhaps its a different subsp

 

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lou salomon

the birdonist

• Jan 28, 2006

• #4

nothing wrong with the streaking. it is from the anthus spinoletta - complex (water pipit). anyone telling the ssp?

 

Mike Pennington

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• Jan 29, 2006

• #5

Simonph said:

Seemed to have much heavier streaking than the water pipits im used to seeing here - have attached one to show what I mean...perhaps its a different subsp

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Interestingly, your original photos look closer to 'western' perception of Water Pipit than this one, although I'm sure they're both correct.

 

JANJ

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• Jan 29, 2006

• #6

These would be subspecies coutellii, which is more distinctly streaked in upperparts, and has finer streaks on underparts. The loral area often seems to be paler close to the bill, only a dark spot in front of the eye, spinoletta usually all dark, but there´s variation. In the first image the lores seems to be all pale, and the streaking looks more prominent on the the breast and flanks. The grey nape is rather obvious and according to Alström & Mild in 'Pipits' coutellii in winter plumage has more often a greyer nape than spinoletta.

http://www.tarsiger.com/index.php?p...inen,+Water+Pipit,+Anthus+spinoletta&lang=eng

JanJ

 

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Simonph

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• Jan 29, 2006

• #7

Thanks to all!!