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Eastern Phoebe (1 Viewer)

sja68

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Another bird from our trip today. Photo taken in upstate NY.
Not sure what the other birds are. One of my friends thought the hawk might be a Osprey it was flying over a large pond.

Thanks for any help.
Kathy
 

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2nd bird is an Eastern Phoebe
3rd is an Osprey
1st i think it's not the same as second but I may be wrong!
 
I also can't tell if the 1st is the same....the 2nd is most certainly an Eastern Phoebe and the 3rd sure looks like an Osprey to me
 
I don't think Kathy was implying photo1 and 2 were the same bird. Nonetheless, photo1 is NOT an Eastern Phoebe. That tail is far too long and much too pale, the bird's proportions are off, and despite shadow, bill shape and throat plumage are in direct conflict with phoebe. Check out some of these frontal phoebe shots:
http://www.birddigiscoping.com/mem06as.jpg
http://www.weeksbay.org/photo_gallery/neotropical/14.jpg
http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/blog/uploaded_images/EasternPhoebe-783194.JPG

IMO photo1 is a (admittedly more "tan-striped") White-throated Sparrow. Long tail (http://www.briansmallphoto.com/photo/wtsp.jpg), very notched tail (http://www.bigtimbercreek.org/White_Throated_Sparrow_.jpg), white throat with lateral lines, seed-crushing bill... see attached.
 

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I don't think Kathy was implying photo1 and 2 were the same bird. Nonetheless, photo1 is NOT an Eastern Phoebe. That tail is far too long and much too pale, the bird's proportions are off, and despite shadow, bill shape and throat plumage are in direct conflict with phoebe. Check out some of these frontal phoebe shots:
http://www.birddigiscoping.com/mem06as.jpg
http://www.weeksbay.org/photo_gallery/neotropical/14.jpg
http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/blog/uploaded_images/EasternPhoebe-783194.JPG

IMO photo1 is a (admittedly more "tan-striped") White-throated Sparrow. Long tail (http://www.briansmallphoto.com/photo/wtsp.jpg), very notched tail (http://www.bigtimbercreek.org/White_Throated_Sparrow_.jpg), white throat with lateral lines, seed-crushing bill... see attached.

She started another thread with better photos. It is Field Sparrow. see here:

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=112372

Best,
Jim
 
Thanks, Jim. I was just wrapping up this post:

I go through these threads quite methodically, and opened this one before Kathy's other thread "Some better pictures":
http://birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=112372

So it seems that's the same bird as photo1 in this thread (positioning on the branch, same/similar tree, Kathy's comment in her new thread). It's a Field Sparrow.

:eek!::eek!: WOW. Isn't it amazing how misleading one strangely angled/lit photo can be?? My eye was very much reading it as a larger sparrow from photo1 in this thread!
 
:eek!::eek!: WOW. Isn't it amazing how misleading one strangely angled/lit photo can be?? My eye was very much reading it as a larger sparrow from photo1 in this thread!
That is weird because the second I saw it (photo 1) I thought "Field Sparrow" because of their narrow looking pinched in head and the eyerings.
 
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