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2 Sea birds in Naples Florida (1 Viewer)
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The first is an immature gull of some sort. I think the second is a juvenile Northern Gannet.
stonechat1
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The first pic shows a gull species, not to ID (by me), the second as Andrew mentioned an juv. Northern Gannet.
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LKB-28
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That makes more sense... agreed... apologies forr the bum steer...
agamiheron
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as most have said 1st is an immature Gull and the second is definately an immature Gannet/booby
Second photo is definitely a sulid and not a gull. I'm leaning towards Juvenile Gannet as others have suggested. The other possibility would be Brown Booby, but underwing pattern seems to match Gannet better according to my Sibleys. And I think I see white uppertail coverts. However, in the other thread that showed a photo with these two birds together (http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=157167), they seem similar in size, which would support the smaller Brown Booby.
Gannet would also be much more likely at this location and this time of year according to eBird.
Best,
Jim
Gannet would also be much more likely at this location and this time of year according to eBird.
Best,
Jim
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I'm having a hard time seeing the second bird as anything but a laughing gull.
I can be convinced, but to me it doesn't appear to be large enough in proportions or in relation to the other bird on the water (see Deb's other Florida post for a picture of them together) to be a gannet/booby.
I can be convinced, but to me it doesn't appear to be large enough in proportions or in relation to the other bird on the water (see Deb's other Florida post for a picture of them together) to be a gannet/booby.
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edenwatcher
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Gannet
Rob
Rob
It is without a doubt a sulid and not a gull. Just look at the massive bill, long narrow tail, and underparts pattern which is a perfect match for juvenile gannet. Size in photos is notoriously misleading; and even if accurate it would show a small sulid and not a gull of any type.
Best,
Jim
Alright then, I guess the photo was playing tricks on me. I'm used to gannets sticking out like (giant) sore thumbs next to gulls. Thanks for clarifying.
Peter C.
...just zis guy, you know?
No doubt about being a sulid - and I agree now that the Gannet diagnosis makes more sense (I had originally suggested Brown Bobby as the I.D., on another thread; but I had not even considered Gannet at the time, due to (mistaken, apparently) concerns about range.).
Still, I am surprised that everyone is so casually sure of this I.D. - the contrast between u/w covs. and the secondaries/primary bases looks much stronger than I would expect for a young Northern Gannet. In my experience, the underwing is more uniform, like this one. However, many of the other posters must have a lot more experience with the various Sula sp. than I do (being just a tiny bit landlocked here
. Could this be a sort of transitional form?
The Hairy Highlander
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Surely 2nd winter (northern) Gannet, would'nt a brown booby juv. not show a much contrasting dark breast/white or brownish belly?
