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New binoculars from leica (1 Viewer)
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Good point about the focus wheel CF.
But it is hard to imagine any manufacturer kicking off a new line with 56s or even 50s.
And although the name is Noctivid, suggesting night-vision, the Little Owl used in the teaser is definitely not a night-time specialist and is active in daylight.
So I am thinking 32 or 42, but I haven't a clue about the market positioning.
Going back to the focus wheel the Geovids don't have very 'detailed' wheels and they are not 'economy-priced'. Also the Trinovids carry the red Leica logo low on the right hand optical tube and I think we would be able to see the edge of it in the Russian pic. So unless it has been Photoshopped out, if the logo is high up the tube then this might indicate a top line model. Or not :-O.
Lee
matt green
Norfolkman gone walkabout
From the link in post 122 you can copy the picture and enhance the image shadows in Lightroom etc to reveal quite clearly the design of the new bins, you can even make out the name and size on the side of the body!!
Not going to post it though I might get slapped wrists!!
Matt
Not going to post it though I might get slapped wrists!!
Matt
Vespobuteo
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I think we can rule out a 32mm. I measured the size ratio between ocular and objective in photos and the Noctivid* is around 80%. Thats in the same range as the rest of Leica 42mm bins. The UVHD 32mm has a ratio of over 90%, and the 50-56mm bins is lower at around 70%. But I won't eat my hat on it.
See table attached.
*I found a full resolution photo where the outlines could be seen much better: http://www.forestitalia.com/leicablog/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/ADV_SO_Noctivid_210x285_3mm.jpg
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VB It looks like the Italian site got blown up by a shot from Wetzlar. The only pic there now is the teaser.
Lee
A2GG
Beth
I actually liked the focus wheel texture of the Trinovid I had a little more than the Ultravid . I wonder if Leica thinks the same and decided it's an improvement.
I suspect this is a top tier bino since Trinovid HD came out recently and Ultravid has been around a very long time with no successor. I don't imagine Leica
making another mid-priced bin, but I could be wrong of course.
Bobby Marlene
Member
Why should we? Speculation is part of the fun. Waiting is a very dry and boring thing. I am afraid Leica is following the Swarovski bridge design, making their superb binos turn into the super ugly swaro look. The bridge design for me is a reason never to buy a swaro. When Leica is going that way I will be desperate in the future.
Well Bobby, everyone has their own taste and nobody can tell you that you are wrong about the open bridge design.
But it is far too early for you to get desperate: there is no sign that Ultravid is being discontinued and there are HTs from Zeiss and SLCs from Swaro.
Lee
Mark9473
Well-known member
For the name to have any meaning, they should have a large exit pupil size IMHO. Something like 7x50 or 6x42 perhaps? Would be a very bold move.
Can't argue with your logic, but as you say, it would be a bold move. And product names are sometimes chosen to attract attention rather than to perfectly reflect reality. I have read that Ford will be launching a hot Focus RS model called RS 500 and how many horsepower will it have? 400!
Lee
The body, Vespobuteo's table in post #144, and snooping possibly a bit more than Leica might like make me think that it is a 10x42.
In a roof-prism 56 mm the outline of the outer sides of the barrels slope in more towards the oculars than seen here, because for acceptable minimum IPD the axes of the objectives need to be wider apart than those of the oculars to prevent the barrels touching when moved close. The thickness of the barrel around the front lens appears to be too much to allow this even with 50 mm.
If my guess about the specification is right how is this brighter or better? Something unprecedented with Leica? Is it the glass, or another new prism design, or stability? Something unprecedented with any binoculars?
For now I have to agree with post #133. Leica is then, with one giant step, far ahead in brightness, way over 100%. Their binoculars can also compete with simple cell phones like mine.
Leica had registered the name "Noctivid" in 2008 (Googling for the word brought that up).
In a roof-prism 56 mm the outline of the outer sides of the barrels slope in more towards the oculars than seen here, because for acceptable minimum IPD the axes of the objectives need to be wider apart than those of the oculars to prevent the barrels touching when moved close. The thickness of the barrel around the front lens appears to be too much to allow this even with 50 mm.
If my guess about the specification is right how is this brighter or better? Something unprecedented with Leica? Is it the glass, or another new prism design, or stability? Something unprecedented with any binoculars?
For now I have to agree with post #133. Leica is then, with one giant step, far ahead in brightness, way over 100%. Their binoculars can also compete with simple cell phones like mine.
Leica had registered the name "Noctivid" in 2008 (Googling for the word brought that up).
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Vespobuteo
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I agree that a large exit pupil is preferred for use in very low light.
I would say 6 mm would be enough to call it a nocturnal bin.
In that case it would be a 7x bin, but I don't think that is very likely.
7x bins don't sell much.
Another alternativ is very high transmission, let's say
95% transmission in the whole range 400-700 nm,
that would be nocturnal enough for me.
But It's not the marketing department that develops the binoculars...
So I guess it will be something more modest than that.
Progress in binoculars seem to be rather slow and take small steps so
I wouldn't expect to much from the marketing fluff.
Exactly VB.
But there is still the mysterious split ring with space for a fingertip to execute some sort of switch, just underneath the focus wheel.
Lee
Vespobuteo
Well-known member
It's for activating the built-in tele-converter.
Switching between 7x and 10x mag!
B
It's for activating the built-in tele-converter.
Switching between 7x and 10x mag!
B
Nah! Its for switching between Bird Forum and Cloudy Nights...
A2GG
Beth
I think it just has to do with the diopter...my guess. Maybe it's a modified
type of diopter/focus sort of like Ultravid, but designed for open bridge.
Perhaps you use the split ring to focus only when setting the diopter just like
bottom focus ring on Uvid.
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