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Acanthis · Jun 6, 2015

Been enjoying rummaging through the supertree in "Barker, F. K., K. J. Burns, J. Klicka, S. M. Lanyon, and I. J. Lovette. 2015. New insights into New World biogeography: An integrated view from the phylogeny of blackbirds, cardinals, sparrows, tanagers, warblers, and allies. The Auk: Ornithological Advances 132: 333-348."

Am I alone in deriving so much nerdy pleasure from peering at a time-scaled bird phylogeny for hours on end?
Probably!

Sticking to the Cardinalidae my question is why haven't Periporphyrus & Rhodothraupis been folded into Caryothraustes?

Clearly they're all very closely related genetically.

Ok the two Caryothraustes species' males have an olive and green female-type plumage which is divergent in their 'Red bird' clade but looking at the females the only real difference seems to be a choice between black hood or black mask.
Also using google images both Rhodothraupis & Periporphyrus appear to have considerably paler bill-bases (as in Caryothraustes) than the paintings in HBW16 and Ridgely & Tudor would suggest.

Thoughts anyone?

Nutcracker · Jun 6, 2015

Acanthis said:
Barker, F. K., K. J. Burns, J. Klicka, S. M. Lanyon, and I. J. Lovette. 2015. New insights into New World biogeography: An integrated view from the phylogeny of blackbirds, cardinals, sparrows, tanagers, warblers, and allies. The Auk: Ornithological Advances 132: 333-348.

Available here (pdf).

Richard Klim · Jun 6, 2015

Thankfully, Barker et al 2015 was anyway published with fully open access.

Richard Klim · Jan 29, 2016

Piranga tanagers

Manthey, Campillo, Burns & Moyle (in press). Comparison of target-capture and restriction-site associated DNA sequencing for phylogenomics: a test in cardinalid tanagers (Aves, genus: Piranga). Syst Biol. [abstract]

Peter Kovalik · Feb 15, 2016

Blood-red Tanager

Richard Klim said:
Manthey, Campillo, Burns & Moyle (in press). Comparison of target-capture and restriction-site associated DNA sequencing for phylogenomics: a test in cardinalid tanagers (Aves, genus: Piranga). Syst Biol. [abstract]

TiF Update February 14:

Based on Manthey et al. (2016), the Blood-red Tanager, Piranga haemalea, historically considered a separate species, has been re-split from Highland Hepatic-Tanager / Tooth-billed Tanager, Piranga lutea. Piranga has also been rearranged.

Peter Kovalik · Feb 15, 2016

Richard Klim said:
Manthey, Campillo, Burns & Moyle (in press). Comparison of target-capture and restriction-site associated DNA sequencing for phylogenomics: a test in cardinalid tanagers (Aves, genus: Piranga). Syst Biol. [abstract]

Dryad data package:
Manthey J, Campillo L, Burns K, Moyle R (2016) Data from: Comparison of target-capture and restriction-site associated DNA sequencing for phylogenomics: a test in cardinalid tanagers (Aves, genus: Piranga). Dryad Digital Repository. http://dx.doi.org/10.5061/dryad.j5n06

Supplementary Info [PDF]

Peter Kovalik · Mar 12, 2016

Richard Klim said:
Manthey, Campillo, Burns & Moyle (in press). Comparison of target-capture and restriction-site associated DNA sequencing for phylogenomics: a test in cardinalid tanagers (Aves, genus: Piranga). Syst Biol. [abstract]

PDF here

Richard Klim · May 4, 2016

Blue-black Grosbeak

Peter Kovalik said:
Bryson, R. W., Chaves, J., Smith, B. T., Miller, M. J., Winker, K., Pérez-Emán, J. L., Klicka, J. (2013), Diversification across the New World within the ‘blue’ cardinalids (Aves: Cardinalidae). Journal of Biogeography. doi: 10.1111/jbi.12218 Abstract

AOU-SACC...

25. Bryson et al. (2014) found that the subspecies east of the Andes, rothschildii, was strongly divergent from trans-Andean populations and recommended that it be elevated to species rank. SACC proposal badly needed. They also found little evidence for gene flow between populations of the cyanoides group in contact in northern South America and suspected that two species may be involved.

García, Barreira, Lavinia & Tubaro (in press). Congruence of phenotypic and genetic variation at the subspecific level in a Neotropical passerine. Ibis. [abstract & supp info]

Brewer 2011 (HBW 16).

njlarsen · Sep 12, 2016

Another paper re Blue-black Grosbeak:

Congruence of phenotypic and genetic variation at the subspecific level in a Neotropical passerine
Natalia C. García, Ana S. Barreira, Pablo D. Lavinia and Pablo L. Tubaro

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ibi.12386/full

Abstract:

Abstract

The increasing availability of molecular phylogenies has highlighted the issue that genotypic and phenotypic patterns of variation are not always congruent, particularly below the species level. This has led to an ongoing discussion on the validity of the subspecies category and on the use of molecular data to help revise traditional classifications based on phenotypic data. We compared patterns of spatial diversification in genotype and phenotype in the Blue-black Grosbeak Cyanocompsa cyanoides, a Neotropical songbird with four recognized subspecies. Variation in phenotype and genotype are partially congruent among the four subspecies. The more genetically divergent subspecies C. c. rothschildii is strongly differentiated from the other subspecies in morphological characters, plumage coloration and song. We suggest that this taxon be accorded full species status as Cyanocompsa rothschildii. Regarding the remaining diversity within C. cyanoides, both phenotypic and genetic markers suggest that it could be divided into two subgroups, but the boundaries of genetic lineages do not coincide with those of subspecies defined using phenotypic data. Lack of complete congruence between phenotypic and molecular markers may be expected, as they are subject to different evolutionary processes. The discordance could also be due to a methodological problem, as subspecies' geographical boundaries were defined on the basis of phenotypic descriptions that were not systematically evaluated. We consider the subspecies to be an informative taxonomic entity, but note that many current subspecific designations for diverse species need extensive reassessment.

Thanks to Rafael Rueda-Hernández posting on NEOORN

Niels

Acrocephalus · Sep 26, 2016

Richard Klim said:
García, Barreira, Lavinia & Tubaro (in press). Congruence of phenotypic and genetic variation at the subspecific level in a Neotropical passerine. Ibis. [abstract & supp info]

njlarsen said:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ibi.12386/full

N.C. García in BOU Blog: Do genes and phenotype tell the same story?, 26 Sep 2016.

Peter Kovalik · Oct 11, 2016

Proposal (724) to SACC

Merge Cyanocompsa cyanoides and C. brissonii into Cyanoloxia

Peter Kovalik · Oct 14, 2016

Proposal (728) to SACC

Elevate Amaurospiza concolor aequatorialis to species rank

but this link is broken

l_raty · Oct 14, 2016

http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCprop728.htm (and not '.com')

Peter Kovalik · Nov 21, 2016

Peter Kovalik said:
Proposal (724) to SACC

Merge Cyanocompsa cyanoides and C. brissonii into Cyanoloxia

Passed 20 Nov 2016

Peter Kovalik · Jan 7, 2017

Proposal (736) to SACC

Elevate Cyanocompsa cyanoides rothschildii to species rank

Melanie · Jan 7, 2017

Peter Kovalik said:
Proposal (736) to SACC

Elevate Cyanocompsa cyanoides rothschildii to species rank

Apparently another split that made it not into the HBW and BirdLife Checklist.

James Jobling · Jan 7, 2017

Cyanoloxia rothschildii, Amazonian Grosbeak, is listed on page 842 of the Illustrated Checklist vol. 2 and illustrated.

Melanie · Jan 8, 2017

James Jobling said:
Cyanoloxia rothschildii, Amazonian Grosbeak, is listed on page 842 of the Illustrated Checklist vol. 2 and illustrated.

Oh thank you. I have not noticed that Cyanocompsa has been merged with Cyanoloxia.

Peter Kovalik · Mar 10, 2017

Peter Kovalik said:
Proposal (728) to SACC

Elevate Amaurospiza concolor aequatorialis to species rank

DID NOT PASS

l_raty · Jan 15, 2018

Caryothraustes canadensis

Tonetti, Bocalini, Silveira, Del-Rio. 2017. Taxonomy and molecular systematics of the Yellow-green Grosbeak Caryothraustes canadensis (Passeriformes:
Cardinalidae). Rev. Bras. Ornitol. 25:176-189.
[pdf]

ABSTRACT: The Yellow-green Grosbeak Caryothraustes canadensis is a South American passerine occurring in Amazon and Atlantic Forests. Currently, it comprises four subspecies: Caryothraustes canadensis canadensis, Caryothraustes canadensis brasiliensis, Caryothraustes canadensis frontalis and Caryothraustes canadensis simulans. No study has ever revisited its taxonomy, hindering a complete understanding of the available diversity in Caryothraustes canadensis complex. We examined color and morphometric variation in 259 scientific specimens and sequenced the mitochondrial gene ND2 of 29 tissue samples. We also quantitatively and qualitatively analyzed 52 spectrograms of vocal recordings. Molecular analyzes demonstrated the existence of two divergent lineages in C. canadensis complex, one from Amazonia and the other in the Atlantic Forest, which can also be distinguished by morphometric and plumage characters. Here we propose that the C. canadensis complex is composed of two full species: C. canadensis and C. brasiliensis. Caryothraustes canadensis frontalis shows no reciprocal monophyly in the phylogenetic analyzes, despite having weak plumage diagnostic characters; therefore, we suggest it should be considered a synonym of C. brasilensis.
KEY-WORDS: Amazon, Atlantic Forest, genetic analysis, Oscines, Pernambuco Endemism Center, phylogeny, vocal analysis.

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