Renze de Vries
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Ah, I see, the confusion is between the original Victory and the Victory FL. Which brings me to the question if I have ever seen a diagram of a true Victory FL? Have you, Henry?
Renze
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zeiss 8x56 GAT* Dialyt (1 Viewer)
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Ah, I see, the confusion is between the original Victory and the Victory FL. Which brings me to the question if I have ever seen a diagram of a true Victory FL? Have you, Henry?
Renze
henry link
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I've seen diagrams of the 8x32 and 8x42 FL's, but the 8x56 FL cutaway at the top of the review is the only internal view I've seen of a 56mm FL.
Henry
Henry
edwincjones
Well-known member
I want to thank all for their responses.
I am getting a lot more than I expected
-the good
-the bad (not really)
-the ugly (the dialyts really are, but in an appealing way)
I look forward for their arrival to see if I made a great purchase, mistake, or just so-so;
but I have history on my side-I doubt any of my other binoculars will still be available 40-50 years after introduction (other than my 25x150 fujinons.)
edj
I am getting a lot more than I expected
-the good
-the bad (not really)
-the ugly (the dialyts really are, but in an appealing way)
I look forward for their arrival to see if I made a great purchase, mistake, or just so-so;
but I have history on my side-I doubt any of my other binoculars will still be available 40-50 years after introduction (other than my 25x150 fujinons.)
edj
edj,
Every binocular I have ever bought, despite my supposedly exhaustive searches on the web for comments and reviews of it, between the time I ordered it and the time it arrived, I have discovered a scathing review. You should feel especially rotten, one being contributed especially for you! Ha Ha! Keeps us on "the middle path".
Ron
PS. Seriously, thanks Renze. Everybody, give everything hell all the time.
Every binocular I have ever bought, despite my supposedly exhaustive searches on the web for comments and reviews of it, between the time I ordered it and the time it arrived, I have discovered a scathing review. You should feel especially rotten, one being contributed especially for you! Ha Ha! Keeps us on "the middle path".
Ron
PS. Seriously, thanks Renze. Everybody, give everything hell all the time.
edwincjones
Well-known member
it would be so easy if there were just one-perfect-binocular for all
that we would all agree was the best and could not be improved upon
maybe we have that on the astronomy side with the Tak Astronomer 22x60.
It was a $1200 pair when produced and not many noticed it,
now, it is considered the best ever made and sells for $2000+ when available
the middle path-we us and enjoy the binocular that we are with
or as said in song
"if you are not with the binocular you love, then love the one you are with"
edj
that we would all agree was the best and could not be improved upon
maybe we have that on the astronomy side with the Tak Astronomer 22x60.
It was a $1200 pair when produced and not many noticed it,
now, it is considered the best ever made and sells for $2000+ when available
the middle path-we us and enjoy the binocular that we are with
or as said in song
"if you are not with the binocular you love, then love the one you are with"
edj
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Henry is absolutely right about the labelling.
These three diagrams dramatically show the reduction in overall length of Zeiss's 'manly bins' as well as the thin-lens tech or Advanced Optical System in the diagram of Victory I. It really would be nice to find a similar diagram of FL to compare.
Lee
edwincjones
Well-known member
The 8x56 dialyt classic came last week, and with limited time with them
pro
-sturdy construction
-very good optics
-fun to use
-really do look cool
con
-heavy at 35 oz
-more narrow FOV
-not waterproof
over all, I like them, really like them
but will be better able to compare to
others when the new wears off and
I get more experience with them
edj
pro
-sturdy construction
-very good optics
-fun to use
-really do look cool
con
-heavy at 35 oz
-more narrow FOV
-not waterproof
over all, I like them, really like them
but will be better able to compare to
others when the new wears off and
I get more experience with them
edj
I bought a Dialyt 8x56 BGAT back in 1991 in Sydney. Last of the stock that still said Made In West Germany. It has all its bits and pieces and tripod adapter.
Still a beautiful binocular. I used it mainly for astro back then where it excels. The light gathering is amazing. Things that blend into darkness in even my Leica 10x42 will magically appear resolved in the Dialyts.
Still have it and its a true classic.
Still a beautiful binocular. I used it mainly for astro back then where it excels. The light gathering is amazing. Things that blend into darkness in even my Leica 10x42 will magically appear resolved in the Dialyts.
Still have it and its a true classic.
Hi Zuiko
Glad you are still enjoying this old but still respected classic bin.
I may be being too literal-minded here but your wording about 'the last stock saying made in Germany' could suggest it has been made elsewhere. As far as I know it was (is) only made in Germany; or do you have other information?
Lee
edwincjones
Well-known member
just a brief compare between the Dialyt and my SW 8.5x42 EL (pre SV)
SW smaller, lighter, larger FOV
Dialyt has less CA
sharpness of image the same
quality of construction the same but Dialyt has a more "plastic" feel
edj
SW smaller, lighter, larger FOV
Dialyt has less CA
sharpness of image the same
quality of construction the same but Dialyt has a more "plastic" feel
edj
Temmie
Thanks. Clearly I had not switched on my geo-political sensors. Promise to do better next time.
Lee
Edj
Your findings are strange as I didn't think plastics had been invented when the Dialyt's were being manufactured
Lee
edwincjones
Well-known member
a plastic feel-maybe a slicker rubber coating
but they are still being made-mine was new
but just an old design
edj
but they are still being made-mine was new
but just an old design
edj
