Edward woodwood
Member
cap varies in different areas Adey
turkish birds are different but Bulgaria i don't know.....
turkish birds are different but Bulgaria i don't know.....
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10 easy Bulgarian mystery birds (1 Viewer)
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Adey Baker
Member
Tim Allwood said:
BWP quotes lugubris (brown-capped) for the 'Balkans' with the black-capped anatoliae for Turkey.
James Lowther
Well-known member
Tim Allwood said:
forget that cap, look at the bib - it's tiny!!!! Also i think the back is too brown, but then again i've only seen turkish birds. I have a strong feeling this bird and number two are definitely wrong from brian's original 7/10 list. Also, i think the bunting could well be a yellowhammer as tom says, as it seems to have a rusty rump!
So my latest effort (no comments on the fairness of having 3 goes please!!) is
1. Willow Warbler
2. Hen Harrier
3. Syrian Woodpecker
4. Honey Buzzard
5. Imperial Eagle
6. Yellowhammer
7. Masked Shrike
8. Red-breasted Flycatcher
9. Crested Lark
10. Marsh Tit
Adey Baker
Member
James Lowther said:
Yes, and it does have the neat 'Blue Tit-like' jizz of Marsh Tit as well, doesn't it?
Adey Baker
Member
So all of Brian's except 2 and 10, then?
Monty's and Marsh Tit?
Monty's and Marsh Tit?
Adey Baker
Member
CJW said:Close, but no cigar Adey
Good job I don't smoke, then!
I'll let someone else state the obvious and get the prize, then as I've not really done any 'work' on them!
Oh, nice photos, BTW!
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
James Lowther said:
** = alternatives I played with. The tit was the one I looked at hardest but I thought I could see the bib extending to the side. I'd be more than happy with Marsh. Can't remember why I went with Cirl for no.6 now. I briefly considered Hen Harrier for no.2 but it didn't feel right. That would be unusual in Bulgaria when Chris was there I think anyway.
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Impressive spread wingtips! cf. http://www.worldbirder.com/photonew/xpages/photo.asp?PhotoID=836CJW said:
CJW said:
None whatsoever.
Thanks. That was fun (and work isn't at the moment).
Adey Baker
Member
Damn, allowed myself to be talked out of Willow Tit - I even put a similar 'neat' and smallish-bibbed bird in a quiz I did myself some time ago!
Nr. 2 is a sparrowhawk, isn't it? It has six fingers in the wingtips, while Montagu's has only four. It also has too short and broad wings and the barring in the remiges is rather different. A goshawk would have more rounded corners to the tail, a longer neck and a wider tail base.
lou salomon
the birdonist
i'm counting 5 fingers (i.e. without the outermost p) in pic 2 ergo hen harrier. never levant sprawk. also, wings look too broad for montys. why monty's then, chris?
oops, i realize this thread is ancient...
oops, i realize this thread is ancient...
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I was just surfing around and didn't notice that this thread was so old, sorry...
However, picture nr. 2 is not a Hen Harrier either, as p6 is much longer than p1 (the outermost primary). Hen Harriers have five fingers, if p1 is regarded to be a finger, otherwise four (p6 is not even pointed).
Here's a Hen Harrier:
http://www.tarsiger.com/images/kunsa/circya1_8294_ps_edt.jpg
Also notice the different barring of the flight feathers (both wings and tail).
Here's a sparrowhawk:
http://www.tarsiger.com/images/pirpa/anis.jpg
Notice the proportions of the fingers and also the distinct contrast between the white undertail and the barred belly, visible also in pic. nr. 2.
Regarding the Tit, it looks like a Marsh Tit to me too (smallish head, glossy crown, small black patch on the chin). However, identifying Marsh/Willow Tits from pictures can sometimes be rather hard...
