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Southern Grey Shrike Lanius meridionalis pallidirostris (1 Viewer)

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Howard King

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It seems probable that we shall be removing Great Grey Shrike from the Bahrain list as not occurring and replacing it with Southern Grey Shrike with two sub species currently recorded (A POTENTIAL FURTHER SPLIT).

We would like to here from any birders that

  • Have observations of Great Grey Shrikes in the Middle East
  • Have observed anywhere Southern Grey Shrike Lanius meridionalis pallidirostris with a wing pattern similar to this -
Further pictures can be found at http://www.hawar-islands.com/blog/gen_stub.php
 

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I don't know if this is the place you want us to reply.
I have had a homeyeri Great Grey in Israel october 2004, which I confused for a pallidirostris but that is old news. It was, I believe, ignored by the full crew of raptorwatchers for three long weeks and seen by only one other birder and me again in the end.
 
Howard, I read in the thread somewhere that one it was the largest bird you people caught?
Was this compared to other Southern Grey Shrikes..and how is this compared to pallidirostris. Moreover, I would be very interested in the other biometrics, especially lenght of the tail. Did you ever catch white rumped birds..
(I tried to pm, but it is not enabled).. Or if there is any extended info somewhere, I would be pleased to know.
 
Jan - Cau we have started to collect samples from our Shrikes and will by default photograph them all - Brendan has made arrangements to have them analyzed

Gerd

Brendan would love to share his information you can contact him [email protected]
 
 
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JANJ said:
Agree with CAU.

Note the ´homeyeri' pattern on the one secondarie of this Steppe (the tame British individual of 2008). Kevin Du Rose. Same as Graham´s bird

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__gsOYU-MX...AwO7zl9KIM/s1600/steppe-grey-shrike_22web.jpg,

The same bird again:

http://www.pbase.com/nickclayton/steppe_grey_shrike

JanJ
Click to expand...

I would not expect this particular patterning to be a pitfall, it's more in birds like the one in picture 3here http://www.elisanet.fi/antero.lindholm/Linnut/Lanius/pallidirostris.html , and than only, combined with a black bill, black lore (but HBW illustrates a homeyeri with an 'open' lore).
And I keep wondering about the size since pallidirostris is a smallish bird compared to excubitor in general (and than homeyeri as well ?) with a shortish tail compared to excubitor in general.
 
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