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tdg · Tuesday 31st July 2012, 04:30

My first impression is LB due to straight bill and attenuated posterior with a dip. Plumage is in rough shape and I so would appreciate confirmation or any help with field marks seen,

Thank You,

Brian2 · Tuesday 31st July 2012, 05:12

Long billed for me (bill looks too long for SB)

Tib78 · Tuesday 31st July 2012, 08:44

Looks more like a Short-billed to me.

Brian2 · Tuesday 31st July 2012, 16:25

that's cleared that up nicely for you then TDG

petemorris · Tuesday 31st July 2012, 19:06

Short-billed for me too. The black and gold upperparts and spotted breast sides amongst other features...

Pete

jmepler · Tuesday 31st July 2012, 19:13

Short-billed for me.

I calculate the bill-to-head ratio to be 1.6:1. Minimum for LBDO is 1.7:1

The loral angle also appears to be high, although I didn't actually measure it.

Some good tips on identification here and here.

The easiest way to tell them apart is to listen for them to call.

Mike

Brian2 · Tuesday 31st July 2012, 19:38

always learning

Tuesday 31st July 2012, 04:30	#1
tdg Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Saline, MI Posts: 18	Dowitcher in Michigan - LB or SB? My first impression is LB due to straight bill and attenuated posterior with a dip. Plumage is in rough shape and I so would appreciate confirmation or any help with field marks seen, Thank You, Attached Thumbnails

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Brian2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: essex Posts: 1,096	Long billed for me (bill looks too long for SB) __________________ http://briansbirding.blogspot.co.uk/

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Brian2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: essex Posts: 1,096	that's cleared that up nicely for you then TDG __________________ http://briansbirding.blogspot.co.uk/

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Tuesday 31st July 2012, 08:44	#3
Tib78 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: France Posts: 2,117	Looks more like a Short-billed to me.

Tuesday 31st July 2012, 19:06	#5
petemorris Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Clitheroe, Lancashire Posts: 582	Short-billed for me too. The black and gold upperparts and spotted breast sides amongst other features... Pete

Tuesday 31st July 2012, 19:13	#6
jmepler It's just a flesh wound. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 761	Short-billed for me. I calculate the bill-to-head ratio to be 1.6:1. Minimum for LBDO is 1.7:1 The loral angle also appears to be high, although I didn't actually measure it. Some good tips on identification here and here. The easiest way to tell them apart is to listen for them to call. Mike

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