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Is she pure? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Jane Turner
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Jane Turner
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Jane Turner
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Who it seems is just an opportunist paedophile - just seen the breast streaking on the feamle - she is indeed an immature!
Charles Harper
Régisseur
Often talk to yourself, Jane?
She looks more like a typical Peregrine than he does. Your birds must be darker than ours, generally.
She looks more like a typical Peregrine than he does. Your birds must be darker than ours, generally.
Jane Turner
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I do it all the time Charles - its my age!
I was just worried that a bird with no obvious underpart streaking was brown above with a pale nape...
The pic is a little darker than life.
I was just worried that a bird with no obvious underpart streaking was brown above with a pale nape...
The pic is a little darker than life.
mountain man
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Re: title of this thread.
With that male around probably not for much longer!
With that male around probably not for much longer!
Michael Frankis
conehead
Remarkably pale base to the tail for a Peregrine
Escaped falconers' Saker-Peregrine hybrid?
Michael
Escaped falconers' Saker-Peregrine hybrid?
Michael
Jane Turner
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I'm less worried now I've seen a streaked breast - I think just a young bird. I can confirm that she is no longer "pure" in that sense Tom!!
There are more pics of this bird in the HBO thread in the local patch forum...
There is still something a bit odd about her! This pic in particular. Looks small -headed and leggy!
http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=6868
There are more pics of this bird in the HBO thread in the local patch forum...
There is still something a bit odd about her! This pic in particular. Looks small -headed and leggy!
http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=6868
mountain man
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Jane Turner said:
Did you get any pics of that?!
Jane Turner said:
No wonder the male was so keen. She sounds perfect!
Tom.
Jane Turner
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No I spared them that indignity
Jane Turner
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Joern Lehmhus
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I haven´t seen many hybrid peregrines; but I´d agree this bird to look strange, with some resemblance to peregrine-gyr or peregrine-saker hybrid...
Especially with that light tail base anad the light crown.
Especially with that light tail base anad the light crown.
These shots may help. I'm sure that the UK Peregrines are a bit different than ours, but perhaps these photos will help some. The first is a one year old - Alimak. I know that it is 100% peregrine because we know his parents! You can see his band numbers. I have a certificate on him from our national bird banding department. The second is Selco at two, or three years of age. She was eight this spring. Still no successful nesting by her in all these years. She likes to nest in storm drains and ledges of buildings that slope. :h?: I built her a quality nest box last year and she has ignored it. Some job mounting a big, heavy box up 14 stories for nada.
Mark
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Jane Turner
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Joern Lehmhus said:
The underpart streaking does suggest a young bird, which might account for the pale nape... the moustacials are Peregrine width... I still reckon I could pass of that first pic as a Saker though on the pale trousers , long lets, long tail and small head.
It a huge brd.. I didn't get much chance to assess in air jizz... fighting two Carrion Crows while carrying a Pigeon wasn't ideal conditions.. and then she just lumbered off down the beach as the tide came in...carrying dinner
Joern Lehmhus
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I admit I do not remember ever having seen such a pale nape on a young peregrine in middle europe; it seems very distinct here
Jane Turner
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Growing more and more sure that its a Saker/Peregrine hybrid.
Ranger James
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The slight creamyness of the facial marking would suggest some ammount of saker in there, but could just be the images creating that illusion.
However this ID is bringing back flashes of the Genetic Integrety thread, I think i need a bit of a sit-down.
James
However this ID is bringing back flashes of the Genetic Integrety thread, I think i need a bit of a sit-down.
James
Jane Turner
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The pale nape, super , pale base to the tail and structure differences from Peregrine are real!
I didn't really see the bird flying normally (Carrying a mickey and scrapping with crows isn't normal) to see if there are any non-Peregrine jizz characters....but that tail looks long on the deck! Legs too are very non-Peregrine - see the comparison pic with Peregrine in it!
I didn't really see the bird flying normally (Carrying a mickey and scrapping with crows isn't normal) to see if there are any non-Peregrine jizz characters....but that tail looks long on the deck! Legs too are very non-Peregrine - see the comparison pic with Peregrine in it!
