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Old Saturday 23rd October 2010, 11:51   #26
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Old Tuesday 26th October 2010, 08:40   #27
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New toy is due to arrive today...
Would anyone be interested in how it all works out?
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Would anyone be interested in how it all works out?
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Old Tuesday 26th October 2010, 08:46   #29
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Or maybe

But certainly would be interested in the exact details of locality where you will deposit it, preferably with co-ordinates and the dates/times that you plan to leave it unattended.
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Yes, I'd be interested. I've given the details of the camera traps to my wife and reminded her of my 40th birthday in January, so fingers crossed. However, she's due to give birth three days before my birthday so it may not be top of her priorities!
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A thing to be wary with is the start up time. Some of the cheaper ones can have a time of three seconds or more between detecting something and taking the first picture. It might not sound a lot but it is easily enough for a creature to walk past or to grab some bait and run off to cover. I have one I brought for use on a conservation project in Africa and the only success I had was at a small watering hole. There is a frustration about setting them up, I would defiantly take a laptop with you into the field when you are setting up, as most don't have anyway to view the pictures. It can be very frustrating to set it up, leave it out for a few days then bring it back to base, whip out the SD card and find that it isn't pointing where you though it was.

If you get a camera with an IR flash bear in mind that the flash is just on or off there is no metering going on, so experiment with range it is easy to get things washed out or too dark.

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A thing to be wary with is the start up time. Some of the cheaper ones can have a time of three seconds or more between detecting something and taking the first picture. It might not sound a lot but it is easily enough for a creature to walk past or to grab some bait and run off to cover. I have one I brought for use on a conservation project in Africa and the only success I had was at a small watering hole. There is a frustration about setting them up, I would defiantly take a laptop with you into the field when you are setting up, as most don't have anyway to view the pictures. It can be very frustrating to set it up, leave it out for a few days then bring it back to base, whip out the SD card and find that it isn't pointing where you though it was.

If you get a camera with an IR flash bear in mind that the flash is just on or off there is no metering going on, so experiment with range it is easy to get things washed out or too dark.

Best of luck!
Thanks for that, Bushnell claim start up is less than a second so hopefully that'll be quick enough... as for getting the right position, I did wonder about that. I thought about first just practicing to get an idea of field of view, then taking a camera along to the set up point to try and get the right angle. This camera also has a light sensor so hopefully the IR won't cause too many problems like you mention. Practice makes perfect I guess and thanks for the tips!
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So I've had the camera for a week now and it's not had an idle night...

Best night was last night, rigged near a composter to hopefully get some footage of wood mice. I wasn't amazed at how good the sensor was before, but on these closer shots it's managed to trigger and start filming before a mouse even appears in the frame on a few videos. Quality is great, I've got a nice little video of a wood mouse playing with a couple of slaters which is quite impressive, and the infra red is not so strong that you just get glare in the middle of the film. Very easy to set up, it comes with it's own long strap, the best thing is it's so dinky and unobtrusive. A reasonably observant person could walk past it in the woods a couple of metres away and not notice. It does give out a faint red glow at night though.

I'll start a proper thread of my endeavors at some point (mission 1: stoat in local woods, first attempt unsuccessful), but if anyone is sitting there just pondering, stop pondering and just go for it. It cost me about 200 with a new 8gb SD card (nearly 4 hours of high quality video) and 8 batteries, but well worth it.
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Patience. I don't have any programmes for video wizardry yet. I suppose I could draw a map though........
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Patience. I don't have any programmes for video wizardry yet. I suppose I could draw a map though........
Hmm, a map. Sounds good. Or a drawing. A drawing would be great.
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Does it have a setting for taking stills? Eg. every 5 seconds or something when triggered.
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Does it have a setting for taking stills? Eg. every 5 seconds or something when triggered.
Yes there's a setting for still photos though I haven't tried it yet. You can set it to take 1, 2 or 3 photos at 3, 5 or 8 mp, then same as the video I think, you set an interval time before it will trigger again. The default is 10 seconds but I just have it at 1, the lowest. I'll stick it out in the garden tonight on stills and see what happens...
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Yes there's a setting for still photos though I haven't tried it yet. You can set it to take 1, 2 or 3 photos at 3, 5 or 8 mp, then same as the video I think, you set an interval time before it will trigger again. The default is 10 seconds but I just have it at 1, the lowest. I'll stick it out in the garden tonight on stills and see what happens...
I can only imagine what would appear if I set it outside my cabin - martins, Wild Boar, Beavers, deer, who knows what! Fancy a night in the woods?
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I can only imagine what would appear if I set it outside my cabin - martins, Wild Boar, Beavers, deer, who knows what! Fancy a night in the woods?
Well get one then, we can compare gardens. I have 2 foxes so far. And a cat. :)
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Well get one then, we can compare gardens. I have 2 foxes so far. And a cat. :)
Will let you detail the goings on, wait till a few of your pictures appear here, then may well take you up on the idea...
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Will let you detail the goings on, wait till a few of your pictures appear here, then may well take you up on the idea...
okydoke, it's in the dark rainy garden, got some photos of me in the gloom if nothing else!
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... got some photos of me in the gloom if nothing else!
Worth posting, amusement to many I'm sure
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Right then, first attempt with stills, most important lesson is the camera needs to be pointing slightly down the trail (if set on a trail) to trigger as far away as possible, not a side on shot. The one second start up can cause some problems with speedy creatures like foxes.

Anyways, best two photos of the night, I can definitely do better....

Second one particularly welcome and somewhat unexpected, though I knew they were around. As we've discovered on previous ventures badgers seem to be a little more savvy to the IR light than other animals, despite literature everywhere claiming they can't see it at all. So this one triggered the camera twice (to take 6 photos), but this is all I got. I suspect he nipped round the back and sat directly behind munching the apples. :)
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I've got a nice little video of a wood mouse playing with a couple of slaters which is quite impressive.
Aren't the Slaters a family on Eastenders?


Any screen grabs of the mice, with or without Stacy?
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Any screen grabs of the mice, with or without Stacy?
Ah yes, it's also what we call woodlice way up here, more local than I thought I guess?

I don't know how to do screen grabs but will see what I can do......
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here they are....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tX64BWmFqQ
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Quality is great, I've got a nice little video of a wood mouse playing with a couple of slaters which is quite impressive.
Agreed great, but not sure 'playing with' is the term the 'slaters', erm woodlice, would use - I think the mouse ate it!
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