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Help Please - NE New Mexico (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Lisa W
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Not sure based on this photo, but it looks to be an unusual location for a Pewee. Pete Dunne notes regarding Western Wood-Pewee that it generally perches "more than 10 feet above the ground". Also, Greater Pewee likes to sit high in trees. But these preferences do not rule anything out of course.
Best,
Jim
Best,
Jim
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Bird Hard 2
Cynical Sceptic
To be honest, I couldn't justify why it's not a sun-bleached female Black Phoebe. There seems to be quite a bit of definition between breast and belly and that tail looks really black.
Unconventional thinking, but I do not think so. What we can see of the bill looks too long. The lower part of the throat looks lighter than the rest of the breast, and there is not near enough contrast between the breast and belly in my opinion. The dark coloration also goes down too far, especially in the center of the breast/belly -- Black Phoebe typically shows a white "peak" in this area. (see here: http://gallery.photo.net/photo/5608407-lg.jpg). I could not find a photo of a Black Phoebe that comes close to this bird. Finally, northeast New Mexico would be out of normal range for a Black Phoebe (though the refuge checklist indicates it is a rare visitor).
Cordially,
Jim
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Motmot
Eduardo Amengual
A few Greater Pewees:
http://i.pbase.com/g4/03/475403/2/64974009.mSm9VUo2.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/nightjar/22292617/
http://www.pbase.com/silverbowff/image/78217327
A few good to compare Say's:
http://nachogranados.googlepages.co...ys_chT.jpg/14_abril_07_0095_Says_chT-full.jpg
http://members.cox.net/deanoid3/Baja_January2003/SaysPhoebeCrp2.jpg
http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/wildlife/wildspace/media/mainpic/large/SAPH.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/g4/03/475403/2/64974009.mSm9VUo2.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/nightjar/22292617/
http://www.pbase.com/silverbowff/image/78217327
A few good to compare Say's:
http://nachogranados.googlepages.co...ys_chT.jpg/14_abril_07_0095_Says_chT-full.jpg
http://members.cox.net/deanoid3/Baja_January2003/SaysPhoebeCrp2.jpg
http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/wildlife/wildspace/media/mainpic/large/SAPH.jpg
This bird continues to puzzle me. Not only is Greater Pewee not on the refuge checklist, but the only records eBird has for it in New Mexico are about four records in southwestern New Mexico. So Greater Pewee would be quite an unusual bird in this area. Moreover, this bird appears to be carrying food, which would suggest nesting activity (in addition to the time of year); and a Greater Pewee nesting at the refuge would be even more unusual. The crest also seems a bit more subdued than shown in motmot's Greater Pewee shots.
The legs seem too long for a Western Wood-Pewee.
Eastern Phoebe is listed as being occasional on the refuge, and has nested there. Legs and bill seem long for it though also.
There are no buffy or yellowish tones suggestive of Say's Phoebe, though I would not rule it out.
I tried to find a photo of an Ash-throated Flycatcher with underparts that looked like this, but could not.
Hopefully we can get some more photos.
Best,
Jim
The legs seem too long for a Western Wood-Pewee.
Eastern Phoebe is listed as being occasional on the refuge, and has nested there. Legs and bill seem long for it though also.
There are no buffy or yellowish tones suggestive of Say's Phoebe, though I would not rule it out.
I tried to find a photo of an Ash-throated Flycatcher with underparts that looked like this, but could not.
Hopefully we can get some more photos.
Best,
Jim
Thanks all for the great discussion so far.
I think this picture might show jforb correct. I didn't see any buff on the bird as he faced me, but I was looking into the sun and maybe that had some affect. When I brought up the exposure on this shot, you can see some buffy undertones. So possibly a Say's Phoebe, which is a yard bird for me, so don't understand why I couldn't ID it. Don't know why I didn't include this shot to begin with.
Will await more replies.
Thanks again.
Lisa
I think this picture might show jforb correct. I didn't see any buff on the bird as he faced me, but I was looking into the sun and maybe that had some affect. When I brought up the exposure on this shot, you can see some buffy undertones. So possibly a Say's Phoebe, which is a yard bird for me, so don't understand why I couldn't ID it. Don't know why I didn't include this shot to begin with.
Will await more replies.
Thanks again.
Lisa
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