[xu42]

Originally Posted by brocknroller

Alotaibi,

Yes, it was clear when you said the DFs were made especially made for military reasons. That was my point.

Earlier, before you joined the discussion, xu42 wrote in post #11, page 1:

"As I knew, the rich people in Mid East made these orders for their hunting purpose. These DFs are not military orders."

So all of us here we're thinking these Swarovski DF Habichts were made for Saudi hunters. That didn't quite make sense to me, because US hunters would be a much larger market, but that's what was said.

The fact that they were made for the Saudi national guard makes more sense. That would be a large order worth Swarovski's time.

Brock

My DF came with luxury green commerical package, standard manual for all other habicht model, and a 30-year warranty card. Without laserfilter and reticle. I don't believe the military need all those value added service.
My friend has a serious military habicht, see picture:

[Alotaibi]

Originally Posted by brocknroller

Alotaibi,

So all of us here we're thinking these Swarovski DF Habichts were made for Saudi hunters. That didn't quite make sense to me, because US hunters would be a much larger market,

The fact that they were made for the Saudi national guard makes more sense. That would be a large order worth Swarovski's time.

Brock

brocknroller...

i agree with u but what i know and believe that they did that for market competition between ziess and swarovski on the Saudi national guard because ziess had abig deal with them

[Giorgio]

Originally Posted by xu42

My DF came with luxury green commerical package, standard manual for all other habicht model, and a 30-year warranty card. Without laserfilter and reticle. I don't believe the military need all those value added service.
My friend has a serious military habicht, see picture:

It is curious, i never saw any Habichts with screws at this place of the body.
I never saw blue coatings on Habicht lenses.
This pair must be pretty old, it seems not to be a real Habicht, i just say seems.
It remembers me the article of Merlitz about the "fake" Jenoptems
http://www.holgermerlitz.de/jenoptem.html
I gotta stop beeing that paranoid lol

[xu42]

I asked my friend in Saudi. He is a friend of Swarovski representative of Saudi. The representative told my friend Saudi military did order DFs few years ago. The serial # start with the letter "S", with reticle. The civilian DFs, mine hunter version, serial # start with the letter "B".

[steve@37n84w]

Originally Posted by xu42

I asked my friend in Saudi. He is a friend of Swarovski representative of Saudi. The representative told my friend Saudi military did order DFs few years ago. The serial # start with the letter "S", with reticle. The civilian DFs, mine hunter version, serial # start with the letter "B".

As I mentioned earlier the Swarovski's pictured in the Japanese website were manufactured in 2000 which definitely qualifies for a "few years ago". The S at the beginning of the serial number probably denotes stadia. We talk about military binoculars with range finding reticles which simply means it has stadia or parallel lines.

The serial number on your binos indicate a 2010 manufacturing date but I'm not sure what your serial number beginning with B indicates. Of course Zeiss uses the B to indicate longer eye relief, not sure if Swarovski has ever done the same. I've seen a couple of the rubber armored Habichts (center focus) but the serial numbers on them began with the letter A. I'm also not sure what the letter O indicates in your model's designation (DF 8x30 W O GA)

Steve

[henry link]

"O" means individual focus.

[ronh]

Alotaibi,
Just curious, what happened to the EL when it became too hot?
Ron

[steve@37n84w]

Originally Posted by henry link

"O" means individual focus.

Thanks Henry

[Humu]

Originally Posted by Giorgio

It is curious, i never saw any Habichts with screws at this place of the body.
I never saw blue coatings on Habicht lenses.
This pair must be pretty old, it seems not to be a real Habicht, i just say seems.
It remembers me the article of Merlitz about the "fake" Jenoptems
http://www.holgermerlitz.de/jenoptem.html
I gotta stop beeing that paranoid lol

The three crowns and the text on the case show that it originally Swedish military. They have sold lots of surplus stuff since the end of the Cold War, some of it unused.

It is probably from 1970's or early 80's, it has the old diamond-shaped "SWAROVSKI-OPTIK TIROL" logo on the left prism housing. At that time they used blue lens coating called Ceralin. it gives a yellow color to the image.

I have a Finnish surplus Habicht 8x30w which has the same extra screws, similar rubber armour with diamond logo, raincover and blue-coated lenses. My Swaro has the original green leather case, rubber objective caps, and reticle, but not laser filters. It is optically in very good condition, but the case and the bare metal parts of the bridge have wear marks.

[brocknroller]

Originally Posted by Humu

The three crowns and the text on the case show that it originally Swedish military. They have sold lots of surplus stuff since the end of the Cold War, some of it unused.

It is probably from 1970's or early 80's, it has the old diamond-shaped "SWAROVSKI-OPTIK TIROL" logo on the left prism housing. At that time they used blue lens coating called Ceralin. it gives a yellow color to the image.

I have a Finnish surplus Habicht 8x30w which has the same extra screws, similar rubber armour with diamond logo, raincover and blue-coated lenses. My Swaro has the original green leather case, rubber objective caps, and reticle, but not laser filters. It is optically in very good condition, but the case and the bare metal parts of the bridge have wear marks.

Optolyth advertises using “Cerulin-Plus” multi-coatings on their Alpin porros, which they claim have "high-fidelity color transmission, that is the most accurate and natural of any binocular made."

So apparently the new Cerulin/Ceralin coatings have eliminated the yellow cast. They had better at those prices!

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/product...roducts_id=445

Brock

[Humu]

Ooops, very sorry! My mistake, Ceralin was Optolyths coating, the old Swarovski coating was Transmax.

Those D. O. prices for Optolyth Alpins are absolutely [censored]

[newfie ghost]

Originally Posted by xu42

My custom made Habicht 8x30, IF, green rubber armor. Can’t find it in any Swarovski catalogs. Swarovski made these DFs (8x30, 7x42 10x40) in small quantity for the orders from Saudi Arabia.

That is such a nice looking piece of glass.

[19501025]

Originally Posted by xu42

Some pticures from the dealer I bought my DF.

Hi, I know it's a little bit late to join this discussion, but I am really interested in the DF you hold. If it is permitted, could you please tell me your dealer? I want to have such a Swarovski Habicht DF W O GA, too. Thanks.

[Giorgio]

My dreamy toy would be a 8x30 habicht with green rubber, but central wheel focuser. I'm not a fan of individual focusers :-(

[ceasar]

Originally Posted by Giorgio

My dreamy toy would be a 8x30 habicht with green rubber, but central wheel focuser. I'm not a fan of individual focusers :-(

They are available in Black Leather or Green Armour.

They are special order here:

http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/s...skihabicht8x30

Bob

[Giorgio]

Hi Bob.

I have got the 8x30 black leatherette model, the perfection of it would have been a 8x30 in green rubber armor with central focus, which unfortunately doesnt exist :-(
The 8x30 exists in green but with individual focusers, which in don't find that practical.
Nice to see Camera land can provide people with it, as the 8x30 green is extremely rare and avalaible normally on special orders.

[ceasar]

Originally Posted by Giorgio

Hi Bob.

I have got the 8x30 black leatherette model, the perfection of it would have been a 8x30 in green rubber armor with central focus, which unfortunately doesnt exist :-(
The 8x30 exists in green but with individual focusers, which in don't find that practical.

Camera Land's ad doesn't make that clear.

Bob

[proudpapa56]

Somebody at Camera Land must have just slipped with that listing. Swarovski is not currently making the 8x30 Habicht Green Armor. And if they were, there'd be a bump up of about $100 in the price.

[Giorgio]

Originally Posted by proudpapa56

Somebody at Camera Land must have just slipped with that listing. Swarovski is not currently making the 8x30 Habicht Green Armor. And if they were, there'd be a bump up of about $100 in the price.

Swarovski does the 8x30 in green but in special orders (some Emirs in Arabia, special persons in China), it's terribly rare to see this model. That's a shame by the way.

[kierangolby]

Hu Xu 42, I'm an Australian in Beijing at the moment (not Prime Minister Julia Gillard!) and I'd like to get myself a pair of good binoculars while I'm here. I certainly like your Habichts, although they are probably out of my price range. Still I'd really like to visit the shop you purchased those at. Would you be able to tell me? My username is my email address. Xie xie nin!