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Eastern Panama flycatcher? (1 Viewer)

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Hello all, the San Francisco reserve in eastern Panama Province near Darien. I saw a bird with blackish upperside, paler underside and yellow rump that was hidden behind the wings most of the time. I thought it to be a flycatcher. I saw that bird fly to a different tree, and I believe the images here are of the same bird, but I did not see the yellow rump again.

Another birder thought it was a Sulphur-rumped flycatcher. Is that correct?

thanks
Niels
 

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njlarsen said:
Another birder thought it was a Sulphur-rumped flycatcher. Is that correct?
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I don't think that's correct at all, please compare: https://download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/67494211/640
In a flycatcher of any sort you'd expect to see a tiny hook at the tip of the bill and bristles bordering bill base (as on the photo I posted above)

This bird's bill doesn't suggest flycatcher to me, perhaps more like a tanager. Sulphur-rumped Tanager would be indeed a good contender. So a sulphur-coloured rump seems to be involved here after all! :) :t:
Check here: https://neotropical.birds.cornell.edu/Species-Account/nb/species/surtan1/overview
The white tufts on upper breast sides are visible in your photos, as well as the bill and head profile shapes.
Sulphur-rumped Tanager imo.
 
Yes, I have no prior experience with sulphur-rumped tanager. The image in Angehr and Dean doesn’t really look similar to this bird

Niels
 
Sulphur-rumped Tanager seems to be a rarely observed or at least photographed species: no images in our gallery, 2 in Neotropical birds online, 1 in IBC.

Niels
 
I don’t have a lot of time at the moment but agree it is not a flycatcher. No rictal bristles for starters. Tanager type birds is where I would look and the whit tuft and description sound good for Sulphur-rumped. Curious if it has been recorded there before, a rare bird of the Caribbean slope usually.
 
Canopy Camp gives people staying there a checklist. This species is on their list of birds they see outside of the camp itself.

Niels
 
It looks quite good for a Sulphur-rumped Tanager even though no yellow can be seen on the first image. Being my nemesis costarican bird...I guess I don't feel confident enough to give you a certain id. By the way, where exactly is that reserve? I ask because Scarlet-browed Tanager females look very very similar to S-rumped Tanagers and they are fairly common in the Darien itself.
 
Motmot said:
It looks quite good for a Sulphur-rumped Tanager even though no yellow can be seen on the first image. Being my nemesis costarican bird...I guess I don't feel confident enough to give you a certain id. By the way, where exactly is that reserve? I ask because Scarlet-browed Tanager females look very very similar to S-rumped Tanagers and they are fairly common in the Darien itself.
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Thank you Eduardo,
the reserve is in the eastern end of Panama Province (a little west of the town of Torti). Everything I can find about Scarlet-browed Tanager says that it is much further east, something like the eastern 1/3 of Darien. That corresponds to a few hours driving away from San Francisco on what these days is a decent road (much better than first time I visited Panama).

By now, I am (based on both what I remember seeing and what the images shows me) reasonably convinced that the id of Sulphur-rumped Tanager is correct.

Niels
 
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