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Two Falcons - Isreal (1 Viewer)

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Greetings!

Stumbled across this image on the web which was captured in Isreal in early October 2016. Any thoughts, with reasoning, on the identification and age of these two falcons please?

Thanks in advance.
 

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left Hobby, adult or 2CY difficult to tell from one pic
right Eleonora 2CY with retained juv coverts, ID by brownish upperparts and smallish white cheek
 
I've never seen these two associating on migration before but it obviously can happen! Do they mingle in winter areas? (btw - they don't look fake to me.....I'll get my coat....;))
 
Thanks Tom,

I might have guessed that you'd nail my cheeky quiz immediately. :)

Incidentally, I'm thinking 2nd calendar year is most likely for the Eurasian Hobby, simply because even though the 'trousers' are virtually hidden and undertail coverts are in shadow, I would expect to see rather more rufous colouration in those areas on an adult.

Best regards,
 
Simon, I remembered I'd had a photo on that (because I struggle sometimes with pale morphs Eleonora's and hobby) Here it is, in the first one you have the hobby on top right and a dark Eleonora in bottom left. Together with a detail of the hobby just in case I failed the ID. There were more Eleonora's around, resting in the pine trees
They stay around my home for a month or so in June-July, a group of 10-15 Eleonora's

I've never seen these two associating on migration before but it obviously can happen! Do they mingle in winter areas? (btw - they don't look fake to me.....I'll get my coat....;))
 

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