Newt sp. Lancashire (1 Viewer)

petemorris

Well-known member

• May 7, 2017

• #1

Hi...

Anyone know their newts well? I thought I'd found the first Palmate Newt for our garden when I saw the tail on this newt, but all is not right.

So:

(1) can a male Smooth Newt show this tail extension, and if so is this just a male Smooth Newt losing its crest?

(2) if not, does anyone have experience of hybrid Smooth x Palmate Newt, and could this be one?

Thanks

Pete

 

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Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• May 7, 2017

• #2

Hi Pete,
No notes in the latest book about hybrids but the smoother crest and tail filament are exhibited by a race of Smooth Newt from E Europe and the Balkans graecus, has anyone dropped an alien in the pond?

Attached are relevant pages from the latest book, Speybroek at al.



Andy

 

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petemorris

Well-known member

• May 7, 2017

• #3

Thanks Andy. Looks like a nice book. I must get it. Also must get back to you about trogons... Cheers, Pete

 

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fricka

Active member

• May 8, 2017

• #4

This might help...

http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/forum/hybrid-palmate-smooth_topic4263.html

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• May 8, 2017

• #5

So hybrids do exist!


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