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Andrew Rowlands
Well-known member
Looks like a female Stonechat Roy.
Andy.
Andy.
lou salomon
the birdonist
female whinchat, roy
lou salomon
the birdonist
oh my god! how could i. yes, it's a stonechat :eek!: obviously, because it sits on a stone B 
Adey Baker
Member
I'll have a pint of whatever Andy's been drinking B
lou salomon
the birdonist
mine was just 1 bottle of german hefeweizen
lockbreeze926
Well-known member
In case Roy is confused by the above, it's a female whinchat.
Edward woodwood
Member
Andy was right first off
Stonechat
Stonechat
steve55
Yellow Hammer
looking at this picture i think i'd have to change my mind to female stonechat not whinchat
although who's to say that this guy got it right...
although who's to say that this guy got it right...
Andrew Rowlands
Well-known member
So we seem to have a Stonechat/Whinchat situation here.
Would anyone like to say why they think it is one or the other?
ID Threads are most useful when they contain some details on how people came to the conclusion(s) they did.
Would anyone like to say why they think it is one or the other?
ID Threads are most useful when they contain some details on how people came to the conclusion(s) they did.
martin kitching
Obsessed seawatcher
This is interesting; a real conundrum.
The bird appears to show the distinct white collar, short primary projection and extensive orange underparts of a Stonechat - and the pale orange uppertail coverts and huge supercilium of a Whinchat! I can't convince myself either way.
martin
The bird appears to show the distinct white collar, short primary projection and extensive orange underparts of a Stonechat - and the pale orange uppertail coverts and huge supercilium of a Whinchat! I can't convince myself either way.
martin
Adey Baker
Member
Andrew Rowlands said:
Looking again this morning, it seems as if the bird's supercillium could be over-exposed and the bird does look a bit 'tatty' so this could be a well-worn Stonechat - in which case, apologies for being wrong (it has been known!) -but the reason I went for Stonechat was that I've never seen one with such a prominent super - generally, if you saw a bird with a super like that at this time of year you'd go for Whinchat without looking at anything else.
Female Stonechats are usually like dull versions of the male - I've attached 3 shots (sorry, haven't got any Whinchats for comparison!)
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London Birder
Well-known member
Stone for moi ...
Short primary projection is good for Stonechat, as is the white patch on the wing.
Adey Baker
Member
martin kitching said:
My first Stonechat shot shows orangey upper tail feathers (photo taken in January) so that just leaves the huge supercillium. I suppose the best thing to do is ask Roy if he got any other shots of the bird from different angles, in different light, etc., that show less of a super
martin kitching
Obsessed seawatcher
Adey Baker said:
Allowing for the effect of light on the colour of the uppertail coverts, and the possibility of over-exposure over-emphasising the supercilium, I'll go with Stonechat.
martin
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