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Old Thursday 22nd December 2016, 11:41   #1201
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Oh, That's why my nose is growing fatter and fatter!

Kidding, locals have been eating this for ages, just they also don't have a proper name for it, apart from 'berry'.
Don't worry, I'll never make that Atropa Belladonna experiment again (:
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Old Thursday 22nd December 2016, 20:38   #1202
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Oh, That's why my nose is growing fatter and fatter!

Kidding, locals have been eating this for ages, just they also don't have a proper name for it, apart from 'berry'.
Don't worry, I'll never make that Atropa Belladonna experiment again (:
I knew dat :)
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Old Friday 23rd December 2016, 06:03   #1203
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I have made a little present for all Sichuan fans:
You can download it here:

http://www.wstourix.com/pdf_files/si...endar_2017.pdf

It is a set of pictures from Sichuan, Yunnan and Qinghai, nothing special, but those who like it are free to print it, hang it and enjoy it.

Best wishes for Christmas and 2017!!!

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Old Friday 23rd December 2016, 12:32   #1204
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Beautiful stuff, Roland.

Best of the holiday season to you.

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Old Saturday 24th December 2016, 18:30   #1205
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Wishing everybody a Merry Christmas.

I've just come back from work in Nepal - luckily I was able to take my family with me and the pics I've posted is of my son sleeping with his new Nepali mate, an orphaned Indian Rhino who was being looked after by our hosts the Nepali National Trust.
That trip was a nice break from almost back to back mammal/bird tours that have been running since end of September.
Lots of great sightings - but here are a series of great vids taken by Justin Brown and Linden Stear of mammals at Ruoergai and Tangjiahe. Those Mountain Cat shots are some of the very few taken of this animal - that trip found two new Mountain Cat sites.
The trip got up to Foping where we watched Golden Snub-nosed Monkey at two sites - the monkey video is mine.

Pallas's Cat - Ruoergai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm1aWwO-nv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AT64kRu6g4

Chinese Mountain Cat - Ruoergai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4bgF3nG8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5R9PODOBw

Tibetan Fox - Ruoergai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NXPaVTW6rg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-dxzkltimo

Tibetan Wolf - Ruoergai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG1HzsNwjGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSNEXcSM5Ps

Hog Badger - Tangjiahe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8zGutLlxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GaSbzd3qAg

Leopard Cat - Tangjiahe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSKS-RVqYRA

Malayan Porcupine - Tangjiahe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOEvOkg4eVQ

Himalayan Palm Civet - Tangjiahe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyRA1FFHJ0Y

Yellow-throated Martin - Tangjiahe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQnU5zxHGL0


Golden Snub-nosed Monkey – Foping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUACcXXIPyI

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Old Monday 16th January 2017, 17:50   #1206
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Hi all,

I visited Labahe for five days this past fall, and just posted a trip report:

https://www.cloudbirders.com/triprep...he_NR_2016.pdf

I found several Red Pandas, my main target here, as well as some other good species: Bar-winged Wren-Babbler, Streaked Barwing, Three-toed Parrotbill, Hog Badger, Masked Palm Civet, etc.

I included some maps and logistics info in the report that I hope will be useful for those wanting to visit the site independently.

Many thanks to Summer Wong for checking on access conditions for me prior to the trip.

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Old Sunday 22nd January 2017, 05:28   #1207
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Great report Andy - those Red Pandas have shown well this autumn - and the Barwing and Wren Babbler are terrific birds

I've attached a wonderful pic of November Red Panda pair taken by Hugh Lansdown. We made 7 trips to reserve this autumn and saw them from Mid October to December 29th. All the best views were of animals feeding high up in berry bearing trees.
Its also worth noting that Red and White Giant Flying Squirrel are another good find - you can see them on the cliffs, going uphill and on the opposite side of the river from the hotel. Another mammal we found was Chinese Ferret Badger - while the caves about 2km uphill from the hotel hold bats. A French guest, Romain Bocquier, identified them as - Nepalese whiskered bat (Myotis muricola), Big-eared horseshoe bat (Rhinolophus macrotis) and Greater tube-nosed bat (Murina leucogaster)


Hugh Lansdown made 3 trips with us last year - Qinghai, Labahe and a combined Shaanxi and Tangjiahe - and has published a superb series of photo reports on his website at hughlansdown.com

Qinghai
http://hughlansdown.com/html/home/latest-news00031.html

Labahe
http://hughlansdown.com/html/home/latest-news00032.html

Foping, Golden Snub Nosed Monkey
http://www.hughlansdown.com/html/hom...d-monkeys.html

Shaanxi and Tangjiahe
http://hughlansdown.com/html/home/34-shaanxi-and-sichuan-wildlife.html


The attached pictures - Red Pandas, an amazing pair of battling Sakers, Pallas's Cat and Golden Snub Nosed Monkey, crossing the road at Tangjiahe, are all from his site
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Old Monday 23rd January 2017, 05:49   #1208
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Wow! All great shots, but the battling Sakers is superb!
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Old Sunday 5th February 2017, 23:16   #1209
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Yes, the Saker Falcon shot is incredible, and the Red Pandas one is very nice too.

I’ve a question regarding using bird feeders in Sichuan. During the summer I bought my father-in-law a seed feeder and a nut feeder, and I was a little surprised when he told me the other day he’s had no success yet at attracting birds. I wonder if anybody has had success with bird feeders or otherwise has some advice?

In the seed feeder are those small seeds that are given to captive Huamei (maybe millet of sorghum?) and in the nut feeder are peanuts. Both are hanging from trees in the garden, next to a river. I’ve seen plenty of Tree Sparrow, Grey-capped Greenfinch and White-rumped Munia, which I would have thought might’ve been tempted by the seed (especially the sparrow!). Not so far away there is woodland, and I was thinking of Green-backed Tit and Yellow-bellied Tit when I bought the nut feeder.

I guess elsewhere where bird feeders are common many species have developed a ‘culture’ of using them, and most birds learn about this resource from seeing others rather than discovering them independently. So perhaps it’s just a matter of waiting and hoping for an intrepid sparrow or tit to realise it’s hit the jackpot?
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I haven't had any more success than you, Dahe, but to a great degree to the Chinese family not being cooperative about the idea of feeding wild birds. They may have a point in worrying about it attracting rats. The other thing is that birds here in China have learned to be very afraid of human contact. I don't see the little boys with captured Tits or Sparrows with a string tied around their leg very often anymore, but birds do still have to be very wary of humans. I did get started with feeding wild birds as a child though as my mother was very big on it and insisted on my learning to identify any visitors that we had and normally had feeders with large numbers of visiting birds in the US.

Getting the first few visitors is the hardest part. Having a very shallow pan of clean water near where you want to feed and view is one of the best ways to attract the first birds. 1-2 cm deep with a few flat stones or such for them to land on and stand on is ideal. They can see the sunlight reflecting off the water as they fly over and will come to bathe. Sometimes at first you also need to just put a small amount of seed more openly where the birds flying by might notice it. They simply may not recognize a feeder as being a source of food at first.

The white millet, as opposed to the red, should be of interest to seed eaters, I would expect and is usually the main component of cage bird food that I have seen here. Red millet, in my experience, only is eaten by ground feeders like doves or pigeons. Peanuts, unless broken into very small chips will usually only attract a few species. Larger birds like Magpie or woodpeckers will take even peanuts in the shell. You might try sunflower seeds. I know that in the US the Black-capped Chickadee, (a North American Tit), absolutely love them. In fact it is the single best feeder food that I have found and they are easily and cheaply available in China. You want raw sunflower seed though, not having been roasted or salted.

It can take time. It took about three months for the birds to start using the last feeders I set up for my brother despite the neighbors already having bird feeders. However my youngest brother set up his own feeders the same summer and immediately started getting a good array of species.
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Thanks for your thoughts Owen, good to hear your brothers are having some success.

Yes, I have wondered about historic hunting and how that might affect modern bird behaviour. I was recently in the US and I noticed that often birds seemed significantly tamer than in the UK. In Sichuan I think they might be even more skittish than in the UK. You would think this reflects historic hunting pressure, or level of persecution - but perhaps I am imagining a difference to suit a nice hypothesis.

I will pass on your advice to my father-in-law. The good news is he uses the white millet, which I'll ask him to periodically scatter around – surely it won’t be long before the sparrows cotton on that it's coming from the feeder, and then hopefully other species will learn by observing the sparrow.

The bird bath is a good idea, though I wonder if it’ll become a mosquito breeding habitat. Perhaps if he lets it dry out regularly it shouldn’t be a problem. We will invest in some sunflower seeds too.

I’ll be back over to Sichuan in the summer and hopefully by then he’ll have frequent visitors. It’d be very interesting to see what spp are attracted.
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Got a question for botany freaks. On my last trip to Liangshan (see above) I have come across a fruit tree that nobody could identify so far. The fruits are 2-3cm in diameter look and taste like ShanZha / Chinese Hawthorn, but are not! The leaves are different and the pit is a single black stone of maybe 5mm diameter, slightly cone-shaped. (Made three full glasses of marmalade from it!)

Any suggestions would be gratefully welcomed.

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Roland, I showed your shrub to a couple of friends of mine who are very knowledgeable about Chinese plants.

There are two suggestions:

An Ardisia sp. (Primulaceae). If you look up A. crenata or A. japonica (one of the 50 Fundamental Herbs according to Wikipedia) you will see very similar plants to your photo, but I think the fruits are too small based on your description. There are however 65 spp in China. Personally I think itís a member of this genus.

The alternative suggestion is a Photinia sp. (Rosaceae) e.g. Photinia davidiana. Again the fruit of that particular species is probably too small, but there are about 45 spp in the genus. I donít think it is a Photinia as I donít believe the fruits are quite right in terms of colour and shape.
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The bird bath is a good idea, though I wonder if itíll become a mosquito breeding habitat. Perhaps if he lets it dry out regularly it shouldnít be a problem. We will invest in some sunflower seeds too.
I should have mentioned that it is important to clean a bird bath regularly and to provide fresh water in order to avoid the spread of diseases among the bird population. If someone is handy enough, it is even better to have a mister or just water dripping into the birdbath as the birds are even more attracted to 'living' water.

Your comments about bird behavior in the US and Britain were interesting. I had never thought about it, but are bird feeders very common in Britain? I know that 'birding' is even more popular in Britain than in the US, but many people in the US have feeders who never bird outside their own yard and/or really have never worried about learning to ID species. I was just wondering if feeders were more common in the US and hence encouraged more tameness in wild birds.
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Yes, thanks for the point about bird bath hygiene as I didn't know about the risk of spreading disease.

It did seem that the waders and passerines that I saw in California were tamer than in the UK, but don’t put much weight on my comment as I’ve only visited the US once and I’m just an occasional birder.

If there is a difference in timidity I’m pretty sure it isn’t due to feeding birds as I think the British may be no 1 at that! According to the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds website over half of adults in Britain feed birds in their garden. There’s so much on offer that the birds in well provisioned neighbourhoods can afford to be very choosy.
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You folk (Sid? Roland?) all ok after yesterday's quake? And...what's been happening...I had to wake this thread up!
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Hi Mark - sorry for delay replying - and yes we all survived the quake. Me and Saker were actually in the swimming pool when it struck, but no tsunami's, we didn't even feel a tremor. However, my wife, at home, said there was a lot of movement, and up in Roland's apartment a light bulb popped out of a socket!!!! But no damage to Roland and family -they were in Germany on their summer hols.

So far looking at the pics of the area our biggest problem will not be damage to the park area, because, again this season no Rufous-headed Robin were found at Jiuzhaigou, which gives very little incentive to visit this crowded and expensive site. However interesting areas found outside the main park have been hit hard - in particular the road leading to the site called fairy ponds. Here there were landslides, apparently cars and busses hit and there were fatalities. This seasons birding from the road gave nesting Sichuan Jay and the usual Blue Eared Pheasants - but this route, winding its way over a high mountain pass, was always prone to landslide and it's anybody's guess whether it will be open next summer. it certainly wont be open this September, the first trip ill be making post-quake in the direction of JZ.

By the way at the moment no foreigners are being given any admittance into Jiuzhaigou

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