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Old Saturday 13th January 2018, 21:27   #1
Sayib Khaliq
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Question Female of which redstart ? Help.

Location : Kashmir, Jammu & Kashmir,India
Date : July 31 2017
Hello guys,
I was wondering if this is the female black redstart.I am sorry for the poor quality of pics.I saw this bird at an elevation of about 3600 m above the sea level near a high altitude lake.
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Old Sunday 14th January 2018, 01:55   #2
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It reminds me more of female Guldenstadt's Redstart with its overall coloration, posture and structure, and there's a suggestion of pale fringes to tertials, but it's hard to be sure from these images. Can I ask how it was behaving? Did it wag or "shiver" its tail? And was it rather restless, hopping from rock to rock? Another thing I noticed about GR is that it seems to have a more vivid orange tail, which you notice in flight.

I'd have thought that 3600 m is high for Black Redstart, although I have seen it at 2900 m in Georgia. I see Hodgson's Redstart is also on the J & K checklist, but is supposed only to be a winter visitor.
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It reminds me more of female Guldenstadt's Redstart with its overall coloration, posture and structure, and there's a suggestion of pale fringes to tertials, but it's hard to be sure from these images. Can I ask how it was behaving? Did it wag or "shiver" its tail? And was it rather restless, hopping from rock to rock? Another thing I noticed about GR is that it seems to have a more vivid orange tail, which you notice in flight.

I'd have thought that 3600 m is high for Black Redstart, although I have seen it at 2900 m in Georgia. I see Hodgson's Redstart is also on the J & K checklist, but is supposed only to be a winter visitor.
Thanks for answering, I would say ,yes the bird was restless, hopping from rock to rock but it was not wagging it's tail.I am attaching a link of a short video clip of the same bird below
https://youtu.be/V8IcnSHtrdA
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That's a very short clip! The bird does wag or pump its tail a couple of times, but not vigorously.

Have a look at this video, which, although it shows a male, shows the typical restless behaviour of GR - the way it bounces around.
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