Count de Challaye's (alt. and/or Baron de La Valette's) Caspian Snowcock (1 Viewer)

Björn Bergenholtz

(former alias "Calalp")

• Nov 19, 2017

• #1

Here´s some possible additions (years) on yet another guy (even if not checked in full!) that turned up in the fringes of my serach (for various Common Swedish Bird names), commemorated in the eponym ...

challayei as in:
• the invalid "Tetraogallus Challayei" OUSTALET 1877 (here) [syn. Tetraogallus caspius GMELIN 1784]:

Ce spécimen (un mâle), rapporté d'Erzéroum par M. de Challaye, consul de France. ...

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... most likely the French Count Comte Charles Alexandre de Challaye (also titled; Baron de La Valette) (1816–1856), French Diplomat, several postings, incl. Consul in China (1840-1843) and in Erzéroum, Anatolia, Turkey 1853-54 (maybe also in 1855?), ... etc., etc., .... written both with or without any hyphen (i.e. between his two personal First names) ... who died of cholera in 1856.

See (for example) the following links: here, here, here ... and onwards.

Enjoy, and; don´t hesitate to prove me wrong!

Björn

 

mb1848

Well-known member

• Nov 19, 2017

• #2

Charles Alexander Challaye was the son of Alexander Challaye, Minister of Foreign Affairs but no direct connection to China for the father.

 

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Taphrospilus

Well-known member

• Sep 30, 2022

• #3

The above information still need to be incooperated into The Key to Scientific Names born in Paris here and death in Ancône. (but I did not find him there. No wonder it is the Italian Ancona).

I found as well:

CHALLAYE , Charles - Alexandre de . — Né le 11 août 1816 à Paris ; mort à Ancône le 27 juillet 1855

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Björn Bergenholtz

(former alias "Calalp")

• Sep 30, 2022

• #4

Today's Key [my blue bolds]:

challayei
Charles-Alexandre Comte de Challaye de La Valette (1815-1856) French Consul at Erzeroum, Turkey (syn. Tetraogallus caspius).

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He's (also) in Base Léonore (des Archives nationales), here (all in French):

CHALLAYE Charles Alexandre
Date de naissance : 11/08/1816

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Thus, did he die in "1855" (as told in Martin's post #3), or in "1856", (as told in the links in post #1) ... ?

Neither do I know (for sure) if the "de" Part truly belong in his Original name (see Base Léonore), or if this part only belonged in connection to the Noble Title Baron/Comte de La Valette (alt. "de la Valet").

/B

 

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l_raty

laurent raty

• Sep 30, 2022

• #5

Björn Bergenholtz said:

Thus, did he die in "1855", or in "1856", (as told in the links in post #1) ... ?

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His Léonore file just says he's dead ("Mort.").
I assume that the "Ancône" where he died was indeed Ancona in Italy. Not Ancône in the Drôme, France.

 

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PScofield

Well-known member

• Sep 30, 2022

• #6

Attached is his death certificate indicating a 27 July 1855 death.

 

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l_raty

laurent raty

• Sep 30, 2022

• #7

PScofield said:

Attached is his death certificate indicating a 27 July 1855 death.

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This is from the reconstructed Paris archive here, 37/51.
(It was apparently transcribed there on 2 Dec 1855, presumably to keep a trace of his death having occurred abroad -- we've seen this type of thing before.)