Need ID / Iran (1 Viewer)

Shahrzad

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #1

Thank you for identifying this bird.

Tehran / Iran / Botanical Garden

7 September 2017

 

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Andy Adcock

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #2

Honey Buzzard


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KenM

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #3

6 primary tips....Oriental Honey Buzzard for me.

Cheers

 

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Grahame Walbridge

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #4

KenM said:

6 primary tips....Oriental Honey Buzzard for me.

Cheers

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Not with obvious black carpals, and the wing shape is wrong. I would suggest a likely hybrid.

Grahame

 

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Tom

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #5

EHB in my opinion, 6th finger not that long but very obvious as 7th primary from outwards is all darkish

 

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Grahame Walbridge

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #6

OK the 6th finger is not that obvious and agree plumage-wise it looks like EHB. It doesn't show any obvious OHB traits other than a suggestion of a 6th finger.

So, happy to go along with Tom's view that its a EHB.

Grahame

 

Andy Adcock

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #7

EhB, can someone expand on that for us plebs, European / Eastern?



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Himalaya

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #8

According to Collins Guide European HB has a translucent hand - which this appears to be showing?

 

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Nutcracker

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #9

andyadcock said:

EhB, can someone expand on that for us plebs, European / Eastern?

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European, as opposed to OHB for Oriental :t:

 

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Himalaya

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #10

The tail pattern also matches European Honey Buzzard and it has 4 wing bars like that species too.

 

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Himalaya

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #11

Collins also sates that a female Oriental Honey Buzzard has a tail pattern like a male European Honey buzzard

 

KenM

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• Sep 8, 2017

• #12

Grahame Walbridge said:

Not with obvious black carpals, and the wing shape is wrong. I would suggest a likely hybrid.

Grahame

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I've never seen OHB or EHB if you prefer, but to my eye the wings look ''broader'' and invariably ''the hand'' looks wider, (albeit determined by variable flight posture), altogether a bigger and heavier bird, add the 6th finger, and it becomes a distinct consideration.

Cheers