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Old Monday 19th June 2017, 21:01   #1
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Texas Wren ID Please

This was posted by a friend on another bird forum. Not sure of date or exact location. They suspect it is a Wren of some kind.

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Old Monday 19th June 2017, 21:05   #2
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Wow, this looks like a big bird, surely Cactus Wren?
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Old Monday 19th June 2017, 21:08   #3
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Wow, this looks like a big bird, surely Cactus Wren?
That was my first reaction, but I think it's just a super close up shot of Bewick's Wren. Cactus Wren has a strongly streaked black throat.
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I would say a juvenile Cactus Wren too,...found in southwest Texas.... the white under the chin would signify a juvenile as adults would have more spotted or dark under the chin and chest. jim
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I don't see a close resemblance to a juvenile Cactus Wren. See this series of photos:

http://ghost32writer.com/?tag=juvenile
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This is a nesting bird with young. They just posted a shot of the hatchlings. They are nesting in a folded lawn chair.
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Old Monday 19th June 2017, 21:34   #7
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This is a nesting bird with young.
So the photo above is of the parent then? If so, I cannot see how it could be a Cactus Wren.
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Bewick's Wren - both the throat and the undertail coverts don't work for Cactus but do work for Bewick's.
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Bewick's Wren for me as well.
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Thanks everyone for helping us figure this out.

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Bewick's Wren for me as well.
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100% Bewick's Wren here.
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:-)

I think this is a distorted view....I can see where it can be the Bewicks Wren due to all of the obvious markings. But, one must admit that 'this bird' in 'this picture' represents more of a large bird, and the tail is out of proportion due to the way the image is taken. The tail looks 'long'.....giving the impression it is a large bird with a longer tail.

For the juvenile Cactus Wren.... many times it helps to look at several bird guides and while Sibley's images fail to recognize the juvenile cactus wren as having a paler or white chin, and less markings in the breast....Kaufman does so and even states the juvenile as having less spotting and the image 'attached' shows the image they represent which does show a whiter chin.

Either way....it is a Bewicks, but it is best to display images that actually represent the bird instead of a hind end of a bird as it might be seen in a Christmas Tree bulb:-) jim
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Old Monday 19th June 2017, 23:46   #14
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All the responses to this thread is what makes this the BEST bird forum on the internet. I try to spread the word.
This image and question was originally posted on "Northeast Florida Birders", a Facebook page. One of our members (NEFB) was asked by a friend in Texas.
Once again, THANKS to all who helped!

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I think if you look at the size of the stitches and the patterning in the fabric you can conclude that this is probably an extreme close-up of a small bird. A Cactus Wren would show more contrast in the markings on the back and wings.
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