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Old Monday 9th January 2017, 21:01   #51
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Many thanks Michael for all the helpful information, many people want to see Balearic Warbler and it is good to know about this site. I think it is the same place that Kevin mentioned and that he sees them there every time too.
The locals expected Red-throated diver to appear following the storms rather than the surprise of the rarer Black-throated so there must be one out there somewhere! I will keep looking.
Good luck in the BigYear and we will meet up next time you are here. Mike
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Old Tuesday 10th January 2017, 06:33   #52
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Thanks Mike,

Look forward on any info you can get on orchid sites in the North.

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Old Tuesday 10th January 2017, 06:51   #53
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Thanks Mike,

Look forward on any info you can get on orchid sites in the North.

Gordon
Good morning Gordon,

Before the birding bug hit me, I used to be a passionate botanist with a special focus on the Mediterranean. For the orchids, it’s still a bit too early. February/March are the best months. To capture Mallorca’s great diversity, you will have to visit various habitats, starting with the coastal lines (including the pine woods) in February and ending with the mountain area in (late) March and April.

Amongst the “earlier” species, you cannot miss various species of the Orchis/Dactylorhiza genuses. And then, the “bee orchids” (genus Ophrys) are particularly well represented on the island - and these are amongst my favorite orchids. There are five species in Cala Modragó and some more in the Tramuntana.

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Old Tuesday 10th January 2017, 17:18   #54
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The Razorbill is still at Porto Colom but the Red-breasted Merganser seen in Colonia Sant Jordi has failed to show after three visits in the last couple of days. Mike
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Old Tuesday 10th January 2017, 17:32   #55
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Visit to S'Albufera

Excellent visit.

Great to see so many Night Herons in good form.

Several Marbled Ducks as well as usual suspects seen included Ospreys, Marsh Harriers, Red Knobbed Coots, Purple Gallinule

Water levels very high

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Old Tuesday 10th January 2017, 17:53   #56
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Today at Son Real not a lot of action at the hide. Just Blackcap, Chiffchaff, Sardinian warbler, Dunnock, Great tit, Goldfinch, Greenfinch, Crossbill, Red legged partridge, Songthrush and just as I was about to give up a fine male Merlin flew in landed briefly then flew off. Stunning! On the beach Thekla lark ,Stonechat, Kestrel, Turnstone and Kentish plover.

Tonight a Scops owl was sat in the middle of the road near pula golf Son Servera
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Old Tuesday 10th January 2017, 18:11   #57
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Seizing this opportunity: At the spot marked "B", I saw something that looked very much like Gavia stellata (Red-throated Loon) to me. The way it was pointing its bill was just perfect - and no: that was not a shag! Unfortunately (and that will never happen to me again on Mallorca), I was not carrying my spotting scope. My binos were just not good enough to eliminate the rest of doubt I had - so: I am definitely not ticking this one for the Big Year Mallorca But I encourage you to have a look...
Hello Michael
I think this bird could be a Great Crested Grebe, there is one there, it is possible if you saw it very far away and without scope.

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Old Wednesday 11th January 2017, 17:26   #58
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Two more Razorbills seen today at Cuitat Jardin, near Palma.
The hard weather in Italy and Germany may have pushed a few interesting birds our way. Three of us are going to Son Real tomorrow so it will be interesting to see if there are more thrushes , hopefully including some Redwing and Fieldfare, both quite difficult to see in Mallorca.
The first winter I came here, the fields to Park Mondrago were full of mixed thrushes and I obviously thought it was normal but it has never happened since, that's over 12 years ago. Mike
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I think this bird could be a Great Crested Grebe, there is one there, it is possible if you saw it very far away and without scope.
Hello Josep,

Thanks for your comment! I thought the bird was bigger, but anyway, as it appeared too shaky in my binoculars, it is well possible that it might have been a GC Grebe.

The latter one, I have also seen in Port d'Alcúdia on January 2...

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Two more Razorbills seen today at Cuitat Jardin, near Palma.
The hard weather in Italy and Germany may have pushed a few interesting birds our way. Three of us are going to Son Real tomorrow so it will be interesting to see if there are more thrushes , hopefully including some Redwing and Fieldfare, both quite difficult to see in Mallorca.
The first winter I came here, the fields to Park Mondrago were full of mixed thrushes and I obviously thought it was normal but it has never happened since, that's over 12 years ago. Mike
Mike, Kevin

Many thanks for the excellent day and the surperb views of Bluethroats, Bullfinches, and Hawfinches (NOT!!!!!)

Despite this, it was an excellent day with pies and balearic warbler

Looking forward to the press article

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Thanks Mike, you missed nothing after you left, just a couple more of Kevin's jokes.
It was a great day but a bit quiet, still some good birds though, the coastline looked fabulous in the sunshine and it reached 18 degrees.
The depuradora is always worth a visit but I have no idea where all the Starlings have gone.
I must get to Albufera before the months end. Glad the pies were acceptable. 6/10 I reckon.
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Thanks Mike, you missed nothing after you left, just a couple more of Kevin's jokes.
It was a great day but a bit quiet, still some good birds though, the coastline looked fabulous in the sunshine and it reached 18 degrees.
The depuradora is always worth a visit but I have no idea where all the Starlings have gone.
I must get to Albufera before the months end. Glad the pies were acceptable. 6/10 I reckon.
Mike
Amazing without you Mike I had stonking views of this great Bird in Port D' Andratx.

Thank you for the great tip.

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Old Friday 13th January 2017, 20:03   #63
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Butterflies of Mallorca

[quote=honeym;3508103]Great photo Pep.

Hi Martin,

Do you have a definative list of butterflies ( and moths ) of Mallorca?

I may have asked you before..I have found one for Minorca and ask Matt Rowlings for information but he was not aware..he has a great website

http://www.eurobutterflies.com/index.php

Thanks Mike
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Quite an influx of Ferruginous ducks it seems. 26 were seen at Bassa de Sant Jordi which I think is a small body of water near the airport, perhaps Pep could confirm if it is the same place as Bassa de Can Guidet.
Well done for seeing the Black-throated Diver Mike, everyone thought it had gone. One of us with have to change our name on Rare Bird Alert, I got phone calls asking about the diver so I am getting the credit for your sightings.
By the way, it's snowing on the high bits today! Mike
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Quite an influx of Ferruginous ducks it seems. 26 were seen at Bassa de Sant Jordi which I think is a small body of water near the airport, perhaps Pep could confirm if it is the same place as Bassa de Can Guidet.
Well done for seeing the Black-throated Diver Mike, everyone thought it had gone. One of us with have to change our name on Rare Bird Alert, I got phone calls asking about the diver so I am getting the credit for your sightings.
By the way, it's snowing on the high bits today! Mike
My low bits were cold today!!!

Visit to Maristany to search for the ferruginous ducks. High Waters indeed! And no duck. However was great to see some 300 or more Crag Martins in a frenzy feeding session. Other birds seen included Tufted Ducks, Red Crested Pochards, Common Pochards, Little Grebe, Gadwall and Shoverlers.
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Quite an influx of Ferruginous ducks it seems. 26 were seen at Bassa de Sant Jordi which I think is a small body of water near the airport, perhaps Pep could confirm if it is the same place as Bassa de Can Guidet.
Hi,
It is not Bassa de Sant Jordi, but Bassa de Son Jordi, it is near Capdepera https://goo.gl/maps/YGG7Hs4h31o
I never has been there, and i think it is a closed place, not sure.
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Great photo Pep.
Hi Martin,
Do you have a definative list of butterflies ( and moths ) of Mallorca?
Thanks Mike
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I do have a list of the butterflies that have been reported from the Balearic Islands. I wouldn't call it a definitive list - more a working list as there are several almost certainly dubious records, some that need confirmation and others that need further checking. It's in Fauna Europaea order and is only scientific names. The letters C F I M and Me refer to the various islands, FauEu indicates that the species is listed from the Balearics on the Fauna Europaea website, Pons refers to publications by Guillem Pons and there are also some additional personal notes. Please be aware that it does contain some, as yet, unpublished information. The moth list is also a working list but it is MUCH bigger with more extensive notes and contains all of my own research data. I've not done a recent count but it is currently about 1000 species. I'm always happy to identify any moths from photographs (or specimens), or explain in more detail about any species in the list below.

I hope this helps:

6876 HESPERIIDAE (FOR ADDITIONAL BUTTS SEE POSTER PAPER)
6877 Pyrginae
6882 Carcharodus alceae (Esper) F I M Me Pons only M FauEu
6921 Hesperiinae
6932 Gegenes pumilio (Hoffmannsegg) M Pons also M but as nostrodamus FauEu
6933 Gegenes nostrodamus (Fabricius 1793) FauEu

6939 PAPILIONIDAE (SEE Carreras et al. 2004)
6956 Papilioninae
6958 Iphiclides podalirius (Linnaeus) M not in Pons or FauEu Listed by Parrack
6960 Papilio machaon Linnaeus F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu

6963 PIERIDAE
6964 Dismorphinae
6966 Leptidea sinapis (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
6970 Pierinae
6974 Anthocaris [belia] euphenoides (Staudinger) M [b] Pons only M not in FauEu
Although recorded by NJR as belia, the species occurring in Europe is now regarded as being euphenoides.
6995 Pieris brassicae (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
6998 Pieris rapae (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
7000 Pieris napi (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F not in FauEu
7005 Pontia daplidice (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
7009 Coliadinae (Ferragut, M. A. DATE? lists C. hyale CHECK!)
7015 Colias croceus (Fourcroy) F I M Me Pons not F but C and D FauEu
7024 Gonepteryx rhamni (Linnaeus) F I M Me not in Pons (originally dubious records but some published recently by Carreras et al. 2004) FauEu
7026 Gonepteryx cleopatra (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu

7027 LYCAENIDAE CHECK Monografias S.E.A.
7034 Lycaena phlaeas (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F FauEu
7058 Callophrys rubi (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F FauEu
7065 Satyrium ilicis (Esper) I Pons only I Not in FauEu Needs confirmation as unlikely
7066 Satyrium esculi (Hübner) M Pons only M FauEu Needs confirmation
7073 Lampides boeticus (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
7075 Cacyreus marshalli (Butler) F I M Me Pons not F FauEu
7077 Leptotes pirithous (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
7097 Celastrina argiolus (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F FauEu
7144 Aricia cramera (Eschscholtz) F I M Me Pons only M FauEu
7163 Polyommatus icarus (Rottemburg) F I M Me Pons not F but C as ssp. balearica FauEu
7163a Polyommatus celina (AUSTAUT, 1879) This is thought to be the species in the Balearics, not above
7172 Polyommatus bellargus (Rottemburg) F I M Me Pons not F or I but C FauEu
7176 Polyommatus hispana (Herrich-Schäffer) M Pons only M not in FauEu

7196 NYMPHALIDAE
7200 Heliconiinae
7203 Argynnis pandora ([Denis & Schiff.]) F I M Me Pons not F or Me FauEu
7210 Issoria lathonia (Linnaeus) M Pons only M not in FauEu
7240 Nymphalinae
7243 Vanessa atalanta (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
7245 Vanessa cardui (Linnaeus) F (NJR) I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
7257 Nymphalis antiopa (Linnaeus) M Pons only M FauEu
7292 Charaxinae
7294 Charaxes jasius (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F FauEu
7300 Satyrinae
7307 Pararge aegeria (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C as ssp. sardoa Linnaeus! FauEu
7309 Lasiommata megera (Linnaeus) I M Me Pons not F but C not in FauEu
7310 Lasiommata paramegaera (Hübner) ? not in Pons FauEu Identity & presence needs confirmation
7312 Lasiommata maera (Linnaeus) Me (Carreras et al. 2004) not in FauEu
7334 Coenonympha pamphilus (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F FauEu
7341 Pyronia cecilia (Vallantin) F I M Me Pons not F FauEu
7350 Maniola jurtina (Linnaeus) F I M Me Pons not F but C FauEu
7353 Hyponephele lycaon (Rottemburg) M not in Pons or FauEu Listed by Parrack
7436 Hipparchia semele (Linnaeus) Me (Carreras et al. 2004) not in FauEu
7441 Hipparchia statilinus (Hüfnagel) Me (Carreras et al. 2004) not in FauEu
7443 Hipparchia fidia (Linnaeus) M Me (MPT July’16) Pons only M as ssp. balearica FauEu
7451 Chazara prieuri (Pierret) M not in Pons or FauEu Reported from a single specimen
7471 Danainae
7474 Danaus plexippus (Linnaeus) M not in FauEu the result of ceremonial releases
7476 Danaus chrysippus (Linnaeus) C M Me not in FauEu

ps the nomenclature may not be up-to-date

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Hi Martin

Excellent

Many thanks indeed

Here are the simple list I found for Menorca. ( as it is Wiki it must be true..lol)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ies_of_Minorca

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Bocquer Valley

Very Windy up North.

Hoping to see Alpine Accentor etc as seen last year but no show yet.

Two Blue Rock Thrushes low down in the Valley near the enterance.

One booted Eagle struggling in the wind.

Its a hard time for the birds
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Hi Pep. Thank you very much, I have been to Bassa de Son Jordi twice before and saw some good birds. I didn't know what it was called.
I braved the wind and hail at Porto Colom this morning and saw two Gannet before giving up.
I also went to the spot Michael Schade gave for Balearic and Dartford warblers but conditions were appalling so I didn't stay long. It looks a great place for both species so I will go back soon. They were calling though. Mike
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Great photo Pep.

Hi Martin,

Do you have a definative list of butterflies ( and moths ) of Mallorca?

I may have asked you before..I have found one for Minorca and ask Matt Rowlings for information but he was not aware..he has a great website

http://www.eurobutterflies.com/index.php

Thanks Mike
Hi Mike and Martin,

These might be helpful. The butterfly list is one that, I think, Martin uploaded to the forum some years ago! The dragonfly list is one that I have put together myself, using the Askew, and Dijkstra & Lewington guides, plus information from John Muddeman's website and my own observations. If anyone from the forum can add anything to the dragonfly list I'd be pleased to hear from them.

Looking forward to my first visit of 2017 - a short birding break in early May.

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Hi Stew, many thanks for that, I will keep a copy and let you know about all butterfly and dragonfly sightings that I think may be of interest. Mike
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Thanks Martin too! As you know, I try to post here any moths I come across and I have very much enjoyed doing so. The list will be very helpful for me, Mike

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A very unseasonal Dotterel was found yesterday by Juanjo at Sa Barrala, near Salobrar de Campos. Also Kingfishers around the coast and good numbers of Turnstones. I saw eight at Colonia Sant Jordi. No sign of any Alpine Accentors yet but they will probably be found on the peaks. Castle Alaro is a good place at this time of the year.
A Pallid Harrier was also seen and photographed at Albufera, Ibiza last Friday so it's worth keeping an eye on all harrier sightings.
The Black throated diver is still at Andratx, nice photo by Mike a few posts ago. It has been quite a celebrity.
I know a few birders are coming here at the end of this month so there will be quite a few good birds around to keep you happy. Good birding, Mike

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I have also just read that a Wallcreeper was seen on Menorca recently. My most wanted bird, what a gem that would be if one was found in Mallorca. There just might be one out there. Mike

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