A raptor in flight and an empid, Yucatan (1 Viewer)

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Thibaud

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• Feb 1, 2018

• #1

Hi,

I photographed the raptor soaring over the forest at Punta Laguna, in the north of the peninsula, on May 5th, and cannot figure out what it is.
And the Empid was at Coba, on April 14th, and looked somewhat different to the Least flycatchers that were the usual suspects in the area. Maybe Acadian?

Thanks in advance for any help.

T

 

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Cinereous

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• Feb 1, 2018

• #2

Looks like a Coopers.. seems a little stocky for a Sharpie.. and the tails not square. .

 

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Kratter

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• Feb 1, 2018

• #3

The hawk is not an accipiter; the white tail bands are too wide, and the wings too long and narrow. Looks good for Double-toothed Kite?

The empid is tough, but I am not seeing an Acadian, which is more richly colored.

Andy

 

RafaelMatias

Unknown member

• Feb 1, 2018

• #4

Kratter said:

The hawk is not an accipiter; the white tail bands are too wide, and the wings too long and narrow. Looks good for Double-toothed Kite?

Andy

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Agree it's not an Accipiter. How about Zone-tailed Hawk? That was my first impression.

 

Andy Adcock

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• Feb 1, 2018

• #5

Kratter said:

The hawk is not an accipiter; the white tail bands are too wide, and the wings too long and narrow. Looks good for Double-toothed Kite?

Andy

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Also has quite a protruding head and neck?



A

 

RafaelMatias

Unknown member

• Feb 1, 2018

• #6

It might help reaching a conclusion re the raptor: this seems to be a 2nd cal year bird, with some secondaries and the central tail feathers (these should be adult type) moulted.

 

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Cinereous

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• Feb 1, 2018

• #7

After checking out some photos of Double toothed Kites in flight I think your right...

 

RafaelMatias

Unknown member

• Feb 1, 2018

• #8

Cinereous said:

After checking out some photos of Double toothed Kites in flight I think your right...

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Agreed, looks good. Wings way too short and tail barring not right for ZTH.

 

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Thibaud

Well-known member

• Feb 1, 2018

• #9

Aha yes indeed. Juvenile double-toothed looks spot-on, thanks!
Now, any other thoughts on the flycatcher? o

 

Motmot

Eduardo Amengual

• Feb 2, 2018

• #10

I don't get a D-t Kite here. Primaries aren't strongly barred, apparently shows 6 fingers, no prominent undertail coverts... An immature Roadside Hawk would be my bet.

 

Motmot

Eduardo Amengual

• Feb 3, 2018

• #11

Thibaud said:

Aha yes indeed. Juvenile double-toothed looks spot-on, thanks!
Now, any other thoughts on the flycatcher? o

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I think it's a moulting Least, can't see anything wrong for it. Not an Acadian.

 

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Thibaud

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• Feb 6, 2018

• #12

Motmot said:

I think it's a moulting Least, can't see anything wrong for it. Not an Acadian.

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Okay, that works for me. I will happily admit I know nothing about Empids. Thanks!