ID Warbler in Kuwait (1 Viewer)

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Abdulmohsen Alsuraye

Well-known member

• Sep 5, 2013

• #1

Please i need help from you to identify for me these warblers . thank you

 

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pietrod

Dr.

• Sep 5, 2013

• #2

Hi,

reed warbler
great reed warbler
great reed warbler
reed warbler

But I m at work without books

best

 

mäkpe

Well-known member

• Sep 5, 2013

• #3

1. Looks like Reed Warbler but hard to exclude Marsh W without seeing emarginations. Claws dark, upper mandible a bit longer than lower, darkish legs and obvious eyering would favour Reed.

2. Great Reed Warbler: long primary projection and strong bill.

3. Maybe Great Reed.

4. I'd go for Marsh Warbler. There's no wing panel nor pale edges to outer tail feathers, emargination probably only in P3 and primary projection is c.100%.


I hope somebody else can confirm 3&4.

 

Last edited: Sep 5, 2013

Motmot

Eduardo Amengual

• Sep 5, 2013

• #4

I don't like the looks of that tail but #3 reminds me of an Olive-tree Warbler.

 

SJC

Well-known member

• Sep 5, 2013

• #5

My thoughts are Reed for first and last, Great Reed for second and Upcher's for third.

 

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Brian Stretch

Well-known member

• Sep 5, 2013

• #6

1) Reed Warbler
2) Great Reed Warbler
3) Upcher's Warbler
4) probably Marsh Warbler

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Motmot

Eduardo Amengual

• Sep 5, 2013

• #7

I thought Upcher's at first as it would be a commoner sight in Kuwait but aren't there too many visible primary tips there? I mean the pp projection looks very long.

 

mäkpe

Well-known member

• Sep 5, 2013

• #8

Nro 3. can't be Upcher's or Olive-tree IMO. There's no wing panel and it should be quite obvious because the plumage is fresh. I can't see white white edges on outer tail feathers. Super barely extends above the eye when it should continue behind it in UW and O-tW. There's also a hint of dark in the tip of lower mandible which is not too good for Hippos.

The bill looks too weak for Great Reed but do fit Basra which I now think is the best fit:
http://www.hawar-islands.com/blog/media/blogs/kuwait/2008/Basra-Reed-Warbleri8036.jpg

 

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Parker

Uncomfortably Numb.

• Sep 5, 2013

• #9

I thought Upcher's or Olive Tree for the third earlier, it doesn't look like an Acro the central tail feathers are shorter than the rest. Agree with the other id's.

 

Tib78

Well-known member

• Sep 5, 2013

• #10

Agree with Petteri.

1- Looks good for Reed
2- definitely Great reed
3- definitely Basra (huge primary projection and bill structure leave absolutely no doubt)
4- highly likely to be a Marsh with that bill

Great images Abdulmohsen as always!

 

Motmot

Eduardo Amengual

• Sep 5, 2013

• #11

Tib78 said:

Agree with Petteri.


3- definitely Basra (huge primary projection and bill structure leave absolutely no doubt)

Click to expand...

Oh yeah, Basra looks to be the answer. :t: Even the tail fits! I've never seen that species so it's been a nice learning curve.

 

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Iraq Babbler

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• Sep 6, 2013

• #12

All are Reed Warblers:

1. Reed Warbler
2. Great Reed Warbler
3. Basra Reed Warbler ( migrant-post breeder)
4. Marsh Warbler

as best as you photographs showed.
Omar